Hi Dave E,
What you are doing is not at all what I am talking about... I do
exactly the same thing here, I have a relationship with the cable
company. I locate leaks in their system, and they fix them... It works
great. I recently got contacted by one of their Network engineers about
a very high BER on one of their amps... We tracked it to a local ham,
and the cable company's leaky system. They terminated the loose drop,
and the BER dropped to an acceptable level for them, and one more RFI
source in my area bit the dust.
Of late, the local cable company, (get this), has, by written decree
within the management, allowed unterminated drops on all move outs.
They are learning that this is not working... This is the second
instance of this I am aware of in the last month... So... No grass
roots movement needed...
Yes, again unfortunately, I think we have also lost it with the DOD as
well...
I believe the FCC, (not all within the FCC but a good part of the FCC),
now looks at Amateur Radio as a sort of glorified CB radio service, with
only slightly smarter operators. Yes that hurts...
One of the ways to change that perception is by careful orchestration of
contact with the FCC... We need to look like pros, we need to act like
pros, and we need to prove we are not a dispirit group of CB operators
to the FCC. I believe the best way to do this is via the ARRL's efforts...
73, and thanks,
Dave (NK7Z)
https://www.nk7z.net
ARRL Volunteer Examiner
ARRL Technical Specialist, RFI
ARRL Asst. Director, NW Division, Technical Resources
I never learned from a man who agreed with me. (HeinLein)
On 7/29/24 14:54, David Eckhardt wrote:
QUOTE (DAVE, NK7Z): We are just lucky we USED to have emergency status,
we don't
have that anymore in the FCC's
eyes, so the rules are different.
We also had the attention of DoD. Is that still in place, or has that
gone down with the emergency loss as well?
I hear you on a coordinated effort through ARRL. But I have graciously
done several individual problems with my equipment. for hams All have
been the "fault" of our power provider in the county and out of the
cities. Here in N. Colorado in the county, we have a very good
relationship with them. Once reported, they were on it the next day.
Are you proposing to tie my hands behind my back with such efforts? I
do not charge anything for hams. Nor do I do solar installation as they
are a given.
If I can't help others with my equipment and training as an EMC/RFI
engineer, its time for my pine box.
Dave - WØLEV
On Mon, Jul 29, 2024 at 9:43 PM Dave (NK7Z) <dave@nk7z.net
<mailto:dave@nk7z.net>> wrote:
Hi,
I would think that we would want a single voice speaking for us. Not a
bunch of discordant, non organized, not communicating between
themselves, citizen groups, all talking to the same companys the ARRL
has spent a few years creating working relationships with, and then one
of them threatening an entity with a lawsuit. The first time that
happens, is the last time the threatened entity, (and maybe all of
them), talks to the ARRL or anyone else for that matter, without a
lawyer reviewing everything said and done. At that point the focus
shifts from RFI corrections, to a game of legal cover ass...
I guarantee you-- someone sometime soon, will threaten a lawsuit to one
of the companies the ARRL is currently working with, and crap up the
relationship the ARRL has worked so hard to create...
That is why you discourage people from forming grass roots, anti RFI
groups, that are not affiliated with the biggest dog the Amateur
community has right now, the ARRL. This HAS to be a coordinated effort!
We need to wake up and realize that the cat is already out of the bag,
some of the foreign, (and probably some of the American manufacturers),
have already discovered they can submit a test article to a lab, obtain
a pass, get FCC blessing, and then remove components and sell the "new"
device without a low pass filter in it, saving them tons of money,
(while spraying RFI all over), until they get caught.
We are no longer in the PROACTIVE FCC world we grew up in, we are
now in
the REACTIVE FCC world that exists today, and will NEVER go back to
PROACTIVE FCC again...
I suspect if the FCC were to hit the companies doing switch game with
meaningful punishments, (read that as millions of bucks in fines, and a
hiatus on importation, or sale into the US markets, for at least one
year), things would get somewhat better.
The fact of the matter is we are small potatoes to the FCC, and the
vendors. We are just lucky we USED to have emergency status, we don't
have that anymore in the FCC's eyes, so the rules are different. We
need to adapt to the new environment... We all know what happens to
species that fail to adapt...
73, and thanks,
Dave (NK7Z)
https://www.nk7z.net <https://www.nk7z.net>
ARRL Volunteer Examiner
ARRL Technical Specialist, RFI
ARRL Asst. Director, NW Division, Technical Resources
I never learned from a man who agreed with me. (HeinLein)
On 7/29/24 09:24, Mike Fatchett W0MU wrote:
> Why would we want to discourage people from actually organizing a
grass
> roots movement and make our case heard.
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