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Re: [RFI] New ARRL Mission statement > Was solar fix

To: "dave@nk7z.net" <dave@nk7z.net>, "rfi@contesting.com" <rfi@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [RFI] New ARRL Mission statement > Was solar fix
From: "Hare, Ed, W1RFI via RFI" <rfi@contesting.com>
Reply-to: "Hare, Ed, W1RFI" <w1rfi@arrl.org>
Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2024 23:40:11 +0000
List-post: <mailto:rfi@contesting.com>
<That is why you discourage people from forming grass roots, anti RFI
groups, that are not affiliated with the biggest dog the Amateur
community has right now, the ARRL.  This HAS to be a coordinated effort!>

This is key.  I would never contact anyone involved in an RFI case that ARRL is 
working without going through Steve Anderson, W1EMI, ARRL's EMC Engineer.   I 
even took that approach when I was his boss and I had been the one that taught 
him most of the ropes.  He has figured out more of the ropes and has built on 
the work that I first began 30 years ago.
________________________________
From: RFI <rfi-bounces+w1rfi=arrl.org@contesting.com> on behalf of Dave (NK7Z) 
<dave@nk7z.net>
Sent: Monday, July 29, 2024 5:43 PM
To: rfi@contesting.com <rfi@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [RFI] New ARRL Mission statement > Was solar fix

Hi,

I would think that we would want a single voice speaking for us.  Not a
bunch of discordant, non organized, not communicating between
themselves, citizen groups, all talking to the same companys the ARRL
has spent a few years creating working relationships with, and then one
of them threatening an entity with a lawsuit.  The first time that
happens, is the last time the threatened entity, (and maybe all of
them), talks to the ARRL or anyone else for that matter, without a
lawyer reviewing everything said and done.  At that point the focus
shifts from RFI corrections, to a game of legal cover ass...

I guarantee you-- someone sometime soon, will threaten a lawsuit to one
of the companies the ARRL is currently working with, and crap up the
relationship the ARRL has worked so hard to create...

That is why you discourage people from forming grass roots, anti RFI
groups, that are not affiliated with the biggest dog the Amateur
community has right now, the ARRL.  This HAS to be a coordinated effort!

We need to wake up and realize that the cat is already out of the bag,
some of the foreign, (and probably some of the American manufacturers),
have already discovered they can submit a test article to a lab, obtain
a pass, get FCC blessing, and then remove components and sell the "new"
device without a low pass filter in it, saving them tons of money,
(while spraying RFI all over), until they get caught.

We are no longer in the PROACTIVE FCC world we grew up in, we are now in
the REACTIVE FCC world that exists today, and will NEVER go back to
PROACTIVE FCC again...

I suspect if the FCC were to hit the companies doing switch game with
meaningful punishments, (read that as millions of bucks in fines, and a
hiatus on importation, or sale into the US markets, for at least one
year), things would get somewhat better.

The fact of the matter is we are small potatoes to the FCC, and the
vendors.  We are just lucky we USED to have emergency status, we don't
have that anymore in the FCC's eyes, so the rules are different.  We
need to adapt to the new environment...  We all know what happens to
species that fail to adapt...

73, and thanks,
Dave (NK7Z)
https://www.nk7z.net
ARRL Volunteer Examiner
ARRL Technical Specialist, RFI
ARRL Asst. Director, NW Division, Technical Resources
I never learned from a man who agreed with me. (HeinLein)

On 7/29/24 09:24, Mike Fatchett W0MU wrote:
> Why would we want to discourage people from actually organizing a grass
> roots movement and make our case heard.

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