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Re: [CQ-Contest] 7% of contesters self spotted in ARRL DX SSB 2024 - twi

To: Mike Fatchett W0MU <w0mu@w0mu.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] 7% of contesters self spotted in ARRL DX SSB 2024 - twice as many as in CW
From: Barry W2UP <w2up.co@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2024 18:05:37 -0600
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Do you think those complaints come more often from those who do not ID
after every QSO?

Barry W2UP

On Sun, Mar 10, 2024 at 5:34 PM Mike Fatchett W0MU <w0mu@w0mu.com> wrote:

> Excellent point.  I did notice a number of complaints from people that
> had been spotted wrong causing them a bunch of dupes because people
> don't always confirm who they are working.  The ability to say hey W0MU
> is here not W0TU is valuable.
>
> Thanks!
>
> On 3/10/2024 2:57 PM, Jack Brindle wrote:
> > Mike;
> >
> > The skimmer code sometimes gets the call wrong. I saw quite a few
> skimmer/RBN spots in CW DX Test that were incorrect. Most had a skimmer
> spot at the same frequency with the correct call.
> > Just to make sure, it seems reasonable to do a self-spot to make sure it
> gets through properly. In phone test, I saw a lot of this.
> >
> > It might also be worth while to re-spot the bad call with something out
> of the CW segment to get it out of most user’s maps. It would be
> interesting to hear peoples thoughts on doing that, especially since it is
> somewhat possible the call is a good one.
> >
> > 73,
> > Jack, W6FB
> >
> >> On Mar 9, 2024, at 3:16 PM, Mike Fatchett W0MU <w0mu@w0mu.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> What would be the reason to self spot on CW?  I see the advantages on
> SSB.
> >>
> >> W0MU
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 3/9/2024 9:36 AM, Sandy N7RQ via CQ-Contest wrote:
> >>>   Interesting.  I tried self-spotting for the first time.  Although it
> appeared to work in tests prior to the contest, I couldn't get it to work
> during it.  Clearly, something I didn't do in the set-up prevented it.  Bob
> K8IA was in the other room watching a mirror of my screen and he would spot
> me now and then at his leisure while he was watching tv, along with other
> folks in the contest who also spotted me.  I'm still never going to beat
> KU2M with his east coast killer station, but I enjoyed a more steady run of
> stations for a good part of the contest.  We won't talk about most of
> Sunday - bleah.  Thank you for this, Tim.  It's very interesting.
> >>> 73/88 Sandy N7RQ
> >>>      On Saturday, March 9, 2024 at 07:14:13 AM MST, Tim Shoppa <
> tshoppa@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>     342 stations self-spotted during ARRL DX SSB 2024 more than 10
> times, a
> >>> clear step up over self-spotting usage in the CW leg two weeks earlier.
> >>>
> >>> Self-spotting has been allowed by ARRL for all entrants in ARRL
> contests
> >>> for 15 months now. Note that most all other contest sponsors -
> especially
> >>> CQ/WWROF contests - still explicitly ban self-spotting.
> >>>
> >>> Several prominent US/VE stations used DX callsigns as the originator
> when
> >>> sending some or all of their self spots to the cluster, and
> visa-versa. For
> >>> example, 9A7P self-spotted using W3WM, and AA3B self spotted using
> DL/AA3B.
> >>> This is above and beyond several US hams in the Caribbean that logged
> into
> >>> the cluster using their home callsigns. This is important to work
> around
> >>> geographically restrictive filters many hams have set for the origin
> of the
> >>> cluster spots they see.
> >>>
> >>> The top ten self-spotters in ARRL DX SSB 2024 by my analysis are:
> >>>
> >>> #self-
> >>> spots  call    spotted using calls
> >>> -----  -----  -------------------
> >>> 589    9A1A    9A1A 9A5W
> >>> 542    CR6K    CR6K CT1ILT
> >>> 529    ZF1A    ZF1A ZF1BB
> >>> 483    W3LPL  W3LPL
> >>> 394    K1TTT  K1TTT KA1R
> >>> 386    PJ2T    K8ND PJ2T W0CG
> >>> 384    N5DX    N5DX
> >>> 379    9A7P    9A7P W3WM
> >>> 360    EI7M    G4PCS
> >>> 358    ED7W    EB7A ED7W
> >>>
> >>> You can find my full self-spotting analysis for ARRL DX SSB 2024 and
> the
> >>> raw Telnet data at https://radiosport.world/2024arrlssb.html
> >>>
> >>> Tim N3QE
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