It doesn't matter. The spotting systems have systems in place so that a
station is only spotted every x minutes. It doesn't matter if they are
self spots or RBN or spots from 10 friends, etc.
How is a scoring robot going to be able to see how many self spots there
were from a submitted log?
Keep it simple.
Who is being hurt by the rule again. What exactly is the issue?
Nobody seems upset with all the RBN spots. The only people that might
be upset were those using their friends and a rooting gallery to give
them an unfair advantage.
W0MU
On 3/10/2024 9:36 PM, Albert Crespo via CQ-Contest wrote:
Because the ARRL the rule fails to state how many self spots can be made in a
one hour period, there is at this time no limit.
Perhaps whomever created this self spotting rule could state the number of
self spots per hour. It is then up to the operator(s) to comply within the
rule. End of confusion.
On Saturday, March 9th, 2024 at 4:36 PM, Sandy N7RQ via CQ-Contest
<cq-contest@contesting.com> wrote:
Interesting. I tried self-spotting for the first time. Although it appeared to
work in tests prior to the contest, I couldn't get it to work during it.
Clearly, something I didn't do in the set-up prevented it. Bob K8IA was in the
other room watching a mirror of my screen and he would spot me now and then at
his leisure while he was watching tv, along with other folks in the contest who
also spotted me. I'm still never going to beat KU2M with his east coast killer
station, but I enjoyed a more steady run of stations for a good part of the
contest. We won't talk about most of Sunday - bleah. Thank you for this, Tim.
It's very interesting.
73/88 Sandy N7RQ
On Saturday, March 9, 2024 at 07:14:13 AM MST, Tim Shoppa tshoppa@gmail.com
wrote:
342 stations self-spotted during ARRL DX SSB 2024 more than 10 times, a
clear step up over self-spotting usage in the CW leg two weeks earlier.
Self-spotting has been allowed by ARRL for all entrants in ARRL contests
for 15 months now. Note that most all other contest sponsors - especially
CQ/WWROF contests - still explicitly ban self-spotting.
Several prominent US/VE stations used DX callsigns as the originator when
sending some or all of their self spots to the cluster, and visa-versa. For
example, 9A7P self-spotted using W3WM, and AA3B self spotted using DL/AA3B.
This is above and beyond several US hams in the Caribbean that logged into
the cluster using their home callsigns. This is important to work around
geographically restrictive filters many hams have set for the origin of the
cluster spots they see.
The top ten self-spotters in ARRL DX SSB 2024 by my analysis are:
#self-
spots call spotted using calls
----- ----- -------------------
589 9A1A 9A1A 9A5W
542 CR6K CR6K CT1ILT
529 ZF1A ZF1A ZF1BB
483 W3LPL W3LPL
394 K1TTT K1TTT KA1R
386 PJ2T K8ND PJ2T W0CG
384 N5DX N5DX
379 9A7P 9A7P W3WM
360 EI7M G4PCS
358 ED7W EB7A ED7W
You can find my full self-spotting analysis for ARRL DX SSB 2024 and the
raw Telnet data at https://radiosport.world/2024arrlssb.html
Tim N3QE
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