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Re: [CQ-Contest] ARRL DX CW -- disappointing experience

To: Pete Smith N4ZR <pete.n4zr@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] ARRL DX CW -- disappointing experience
From: Tom Hellem <tom.hellem@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2024 08:03:42 -0700
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Pete:
I’m not really seeing how the stations in EU not  hearing each other has 
anything to do with the problem.

Here’s a typical exchange:
I call cq. A pile of 8 stations responds. I copy DL5 and put it in the call 
sign field, hit F5 three times. The same 8 station pile comes back again, only 
one that I can discern having DL5 in the call. Rest are I, EW, UA, S5, etc. 
Repeat sequence 2 more times until enough finally shut up that I can get the 
DL5’s full call.
Sound familiar?

Tom H
K0SN

> On Feb 23, 2024, at 6:12 PM, Pete Smith N4ZR <pete.n4zr@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I would rank most of us below the Japanese when it comes to average 
> operating etiquette, but it's worth remembering that particularly on the high 
> bands callers often can't hear each other, and the "1X?" sort of obscure 
> query can lead to a number of callers who have found the fragment in their 
> calls (or close to) and choose to believe it's them..
> 
> 73, Pete N4ZR
> 
>> On 2/23/2024 5:56 PM, Tom Hellem wrote:
>> Art et al:
>> I had the same experience during the peaks of the high band openings to EU 
>> on both days. Nothing serves as a rate-killer like a bunch of stations all 
>> calling on the same frequency over and over. I have never experienced 
>> operating practice that bad in 30 years of contesting. Contrasted with the 
>> JA’s and to be fair, most other areas, it’s like night and day.
>> 
>> Tom
>> K0SN
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>>> On Feb 23, 2024, at 2:41 PM, Art Boyars<artboyars@gmail.com>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> In case you didn't read my post on 3830scores.com (and why would you?)...
>>> 
>>> I did Saturday night and a bit of Sunday morning at W3LPL.  When I got home
>>> Sunday I did one "fresh meat" run on each band, 10M, 15M, 20M, 40M.  Great
>>> rates, for 15 minutes or so.  However (quoting myself):
>>> 
>>> A comment/complaint: Some of the European Big Guns (especially the
>>> multi-op's) were VERY aggressive callers.  I'd send a partial call, and
>>> several other stations would keep calling.  I guess they needed the MD
>>> multiplier.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 73, Art K3KU
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