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Re: [Amps] Subject: Henry hum on transmitted signal

To: "gudguyham@aol.com" <gudguyham@aol.com>, Rob Atkinson <ranchorobbo@gmail.com>, "amps@contesting.com" <amps@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [Amps] Subject: Henry hum on transmitted signal
From: Steven Katz <stevek@jmr.com>
Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2023 22:53:59 +0000
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Yeah, I wouldn’t do that.   The Henry pedestal amps were well built and built 
to last, although the HV choke resonating cap is a failure point…usually after 
20-30 years, not a year.

I never had any problems with any of them, but never owned one for 30 years.

The 4K Ultra was IMO the best amateur amp ever made by anybody but didn’t cover 
160 meters, so that was its primary drawback.   I had one for about ten years, 
zero problems and it was hard to keep it down to “legal limit.”  😊

From: gudguyham@aol.com <gudguyham@aol.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 5, 2023 4:53 PM
To: Steven Katz <stevek@jmr.com>; Rob Atkinson <ranchorobbo@gmail.com>; 
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Subject: Re: [Amps] Subject: Henry hum on transmitted signal

Steve, I won’t mention any names, but somebody bought quite a few Henry amps 
and stripped out the ENTIRE power  supply guts, plate transformer , choke, HV 
cap, and the tuning caps  even the wire would step start gizmo.  Sold off all 
that stuff and put in a cap input supply using PD transformer like Ilona the 
big Ameritrons.

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On Tuesday, September 5, 2023, 5:26 PM, Steven Katz 
<stevek@jmr.com<mailto:stevek@jmr.com>> wrote:
Lou, I've seen that, too.

I've also seen the resonating cap short out (choke is still fine) and B+ soar 
to 6kV and they just keep operating.

Something will eventually fail, but those big oil-filled caps can often handle 
6kV for quite a while, and so can the tubes in many cases.

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Sent: Tuesday, September 5, 2023 4:24 PM
To: Rob Atkinson <ranchorobbo@gmail.com<mailto:ranchorobbo@gmail.com>>; 
amps@contesting.com<mailto:amps@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [Amps] Subject: Henry hum on transmitted signal

Rob, it seems as though is not “if” but “ when” the choke craps out in those 
Henry amps.  I’ve seen where many chokes shorted to the core and guys mounted 
the choke on insulated material instead of getting a new one. Lou


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On Tuesday, September 5, 2023, 7:14 AM, Rob Atkinson 
<ranchorobbo@gmail.com<mailto:ranchorobbo@gmail.com>> wrote:

I think the resonant choke design is clever by a half.  It's just too finicky 
and failure prone for my liking.  Also, I've seen a choke Henry used in one of 
their amps, I forget which one but it was supposedly rated for 700 ma.  I have  
a 700 ma filter choke out of a 1 KW broadcast rig intended to run continuously 
and it's at least twice as big and heavy as the dinky thing Henry used.  I've 
seen I don't know how many RF power amplifiers designed for volatile loads like 
SSB and CW and they did fine with nothing but around 40 mfd capacitance for a 
filter.  I would only use a choke input for power supplies serving transmission 
modes that put the supply under continuous load, such as AM and RTTY.  I would 
rebuild that power supply for whatever xmission mode is intended and ditch that 
resonant choke scheme.

73

Rob
K5UJ
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