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Re: [Amps] current in primary of microwave oven transformer

To: Angel Vilaseca <avilaseca@bluewin.ch>,<amps@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [Amps] current in primary of microwave oven transformer
From: <d.cutter@ntlworld.com>
Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 8:30:15 +0100
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The current you are measuring has a phase angle relative to the mains voltage 
supplied, meaning this is not real power being consumed it is apparant power, 
ie not Watts but Volt-amps.  You will need a phase angle meter or use a genuine 
wattmeter to measure real power.

David
G3UNA

> 
> From: Angel Vilaseca <avilaseca@bluewin.ch>
> Date: 2008/04/23 Wed AM 07:28:06 BST
> To: amps@contesting.com
> Subject: [Amps] current in primary of microwave oven transformer
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I have a microwave oven transformer that I plan to use for my next HV 
> power supply.
> 
> With the secondary unloaded and 220 V into the primary, I measured  670 
> mA through it.
> 
> This is a 220 V unit so that means 147 Watts, with no load on the 
> secondary. Magnetic shunts were taken off.
> 
> I have another two MOTs. Made the same measurement. They all behave the 
> same.
> 
> On the other hand, the transformers do not hum, not smoke, not even get 
> hot, so I was wondering if this primary current could be "wattless" 
> current, that is a current that is out of phase with voltage.
> 
> 
> Should I worry about this amount of "idle current"?
> 
> Is this behavior particular to microwave oven transformers?
> 
> Is there a way to know what is happening here without using a double 
> trace oscilloscope?
> 
> 
> Vy 73
> 
> Angel Vilaseca HB9SLV
> 
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