Joe,
Serious about this reply? RTTY is "polluting" the band and somehow AM is
acceptable?
How many RTTY sigs can you get into the bandwidth of a single AM
transmission. In fact, how many RTTY sigs could you get in the bandwidth of
a single SSB transmission?
It's funny that somehow RTTY is considered disrespectful pollution, and
AM/SSB and CW are considered acceptable if the argument is from a bandwidth
viewpoint.
Being a gentlemen, in my humble opinion, is not only tending to your own
behavior, but respecting the rights of others who may not hold your
viewpoint. Unless, that is, "gentlemen" in this context actually is code
for "if you think like I do, then you are in, if not, then you are out."
Hard to find a young ham these days... Inclusion and experimentation should
be priorities in our hobby so we can attract more guys into the joy of ham
radio. And what band offers more opportunity for challenge and
experimentation than 160m?
Confused in Kansas / 73/jeff/ac0c
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From: "Joe Subich, W4TV" <lists@subich.com>
Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 11:04 AM
To: "'Jim W7RY'" <w7ry@arrl.net>; <rtty@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [RTTY] Topband: 160m in RTTY Contests
>
>
>> I would not call this a poll from the RTTY community. There
>> were quite a few responses on this reflector from the top
>> band reflector too.
>
> However, the poll was announced only on RTTY and not TopBand.
> Unless one was both a 160 meter regular and subscribed to
> RTTY, they would not have seen the poll announcement. It is
> interesting that the results are 36:36 as of the current
> moment ... and I know several opposed to RTTY contests on
> 160 who have not voted because the poll requires a persistent,
> third party cookie.
>
>> And "they" call it the gentleman's band ?
>
> Absolutely. Being "gentleman" includes NOT polluting the band
> with an inefficient, multi-path sensitive, constant carrier
> mode that takes more bandwidth than necessary (approximately
> 300 Hz for 60 WPM RTTY vs. about 70 Hz for 60 WPM CW) for the
> communications rate. Even the AM phone operators are generally
> gentlemen and stay high in the band. Being a "gentleman" does
> not mean accepting a mud pie in the punch bowl.
>
> TF4M has it right, 160 meters is a serious band and should be
> treated with respect.
>
> 73,
>
> ... Joe, W4TV
>
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: rtty-bounces@contesting.com
>> [mailto:rtty-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Jim W7RY
>> Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 10:54 AM
>> To: Dallmeier, Walter; rtty@contesting.com; drcg@drcg.de
>> Subject: Re: [RTTY] Topband: 160m in RTTY Contests
>>
>>
>> I would not call this a poll from the RTTY community. There
>> were quite a few
>> responses on this reflector from the top band reflector too.
>>
>> Most top band hard core folks don't want RTTY on "their"
>> band. And "they"
>> call it the gentleman's band ?
>>
>> 73
>>
>> Jim W7RY
>>
>
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