Tom,
I'm sure he sounded excellent. He just wasn't running QSK.
This brings us to the point: what do CW operators really want?
Well, I suppose we won't even agree amongst ourselves so how can we expect a
vendor to cater to our needs? !!!
Clearly what you need Tom exceeds what I need, but I also want more than the
casual CW op, who in turn wants more than the SSB op, and so on.
73
Rick
-----Original Message-----
From: tentec-bounces@contesting.com
[mailto:tentec-bounces@contesting.com]On Behalf Of Tommy
Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2004 10:45 AM
To: tentec@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [TenTec] dit chopper IC-7800
That's OK Rick, I understand.
Unfortunately, I think Ten Tec has taken your exact track on the
amplifier/QSK issue. The Orion, with the latest versions of firmware, v1.371
and v1.370, will not work with the Ten Tec Titan 3. Maybe someday? But as
you say, high speed CW ops are an extremely small minority of active hams
and marketing types don't think there are enough sales (and rightfully so)
to worry about that issue or operating the rig in the CW mode much over
about 50 wpm. However, since you do not need a keying loop to run full QSK
with Icom gear, that IC-7800 running at 80 wpm last night sure did sound
excellent.
Tom - W4BQF
----- Original Message -----
From: "NJ0IP" <Rick@dj0ip.de>
To: <tentec@contesting.com>
Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2004 5:26 PM
Subject: RE: [TenTec] dit chopper IC-7800
> I dissagree.
>
> I think Icom just does't care about high-speed break-in.
> If it did, then it would at least attempt to incorporate a QSK keying
> circuit for QSK linears. They didn't even address the issue. They don't
> care. Apparently Icom believes the people interested in QSK linears and
> high speed CW are just too small of a market segment (sorry Tom!).
>
> 73
> Rick
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: tentec-bounces@contesting.com
> [mailto:tentec-bounces@contesting.com]On Behalf Of n4lq
> Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2004 7:14 AM
> To: tentec@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] dit chopper IC-7800
>
>
> I would love to know exactly what is so hard about compensating for this
> short dit problem. As much effort as ICOM puts into engineering you would
> think this would be a piece of cake! I don't think it's a case of not
> caring about cw. Somehow, I think they actually believe QSK is supposed
> to work that way.
> N4LQ
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Duane A Calvin <ac5aa@juno.com>
> To: tentec@contesting.com
> Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2004 09:01:31 -0500
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] G3SJX IC-7800 review
>
> > They must have borrowed that part of the design from the IC-706. :-)
> >
> > 73, Duane
> >
> >
> > On Tue, 10 Aug 2004 11:49:30 -0700 "NJ0IP" <Rick@dj0ip.de> writes:
> > > In QSK mode, EVERY dit and dah is the first dit! So in that case,
> > > you read
> > > it right.
> > > And it chops 30% at just 40 wpm.
> > >
> > > Also, there is no provision for keying a QSK linear (at any speed).
> > >
> > > 73
> > > Rick
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: tentec-bounces@contesting.com
> > > [mailto:tentec-bounces@contesting.com]On Behalf Of Steve N4LQ
> > > Sent: Monday, August 09, 2004 3:21 PM
> > > To: tentec@contesting.com
> > > Subject: Re: [TenTec] G3SJX IC-7800 review
> > >
> > >
> > > I read this as chopping all dits 30%, not just the first one.
> > > Typical Icom
> > > and of course the keyer has the fake weighting adjustment which is
> > > really
> > > ratio so you can't compensate for it. Just buy the 7800 and use your
> > > MFJ
> > > keyer!
> > >
> > > Steve N4LQ
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Sinisa Hristov" <shristov@ptt.yu>
> > > To: <tentec@contesting.com>
> > > Sent: Monday, August 09, 2004 4:04 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [TenTec] G3SJX IC-7800 review
> > >
> > >
> > > > NJ0IP wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > "Chops of the first dit by 30%" - lovely!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Systematically or at random, like Orion?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > 73,
> > > >
> > > > Sinisa YT1NT, VA3TTN
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