Actually ICOM went to some effort to incorporate QSK on their rigs plus
they also added many features that are useful to cw operators. It isn't
completely fair to say the don't care. It's just this one nagging problem
they have with the timing. Kenwood rigs do not chop the characters and
most of them have some form of QSK. Yaesu rigs such as the MP have decent
QSK up to a point and they don't chop the dits. It's almost as if ICOM
goes out of their way to make this happen. Furthermore, from what I've
observed, TenTec is starting to let fast QSK fall by the wayside. I think
if you compare the turnaround time of the Orion with a Corsair you would
see what I mean.
BTW: I would post this to the ICOM reflector but it would get chopped
up!!!
-----Original Message-----
From: "NJ0IP" <Rick@dj0ip.de>
To: <tentec@contesting.com>
Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2004 14:26:41 -0700
Subject: RE: [TenTec] dit chopper IC-7800
> I dissagree.
>
> I think Icom just does't care about high-speed break-in.
> If it did, then it would at least attempt to incorporate a QSK keying
> circuit for QSK linears. They didn't even address the issue. They
> don't
> care. Apparently Icom believes the people interested in QSK linears
> and
> high speed CW are just too small of a market segment (sorry Tom!).
>
> 73
> Rick
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: tentec-bounces@contesting.com
> [mailto:tentec-bounces@contesting.com]On Behalf Of n4lq
> Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2004 7:14 AM
> To: tentec@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] dit chopper IC-7800
>
>
> I would love to know exactly what is so hard about compensating for
> this
> short dit problem. As much effort as ICOM puts into engineering you
> would
> think this would be a piece of cake! I don't think it's a case of not
> caring about cw. Somehow, I think they actually believe QSK is supposed
> to work that way.
> N4LQ
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Duane A Calvin <ac5aa@juno.com>
> To: tentec@contesting.com
> Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2004 09:01:31 -0500
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] G3SJX IC-7800 review
>
> > They must have borrowed that part of the design from the IC-706. :-)
> >
> > 73, Duane
> >
> >
> > On Tue, 10 Aug 2004 11:49:30 -0700 "NJ0IP" <Rick@dj0ip.de> writes:
> > > In QSK mode, EVERY dit and dah is the first dit! So in that case,
> > > you read
> > > it right.
> > > And it chops 30% at just 40 wpm.
> > >
> > > Also, there is no provision for keying a QSK linear (at any speed).
> > >
> > > 73
> > > Rick
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: tentec-bounces@contesting.com
> > > [mailto:tentec-bounces@contesting.com]On Behalf Of Steve N4LQ
> > > Sent: Monday, August 09, 2004 3:21 PM
> > > To: tentec@contesting.com
> > > Subject: Re: [TenTec] G3SJX IC-7800 review
> > >
> > >
> > > I read this as chopping all dits 30%, not just the first one.
> > > Typical Icom
> > > and of course the keyer has the fake weighting adjustment which is
> > > really
> > > ratio so you can't compensate for it. Just buy the 7800 and use
> your
> > > MFJ
> > > keyer!
> > >
> > > Steve N4LQ
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Sinisa Hristov" <shristov@ptt.yu>
> > > To: <tentec@contesting.com>
> > > Sent: Monday, August 09, 2004 4:04 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [TenTec] G3SJX IC-7800 review
> > >
> > >
> > > > NJ0IP wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > "Chops of the first dit by 30%" - lovely!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Systematically or at random, like Orion?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > 73,
> > > >
> > > > Sinisa YT1NT, VA3TTN
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