The KH9 situation is covered by the WPX rules. If he operates from,
say, Ohio, a different DXCC entity from Wake, he must sign a valid
portable USA * land prefix. 4U1WB is NOT a different DXCC entity, and,
the call is valid from that location, so it is ok to use it as is. My
interpretation. --Mike, WV2ZOW
On Thu, Feb 15, 2018 at 10:28 AM, rjairam@gmail.com <rjairam@gmail.com> wrote:
> Ed,
>
> Would the situation be different for someone formerly stationed at
> Wake Island who moved back stateside and still retains their KH9 call?
>
> Just curious as to where you draw the line.
>
> Ria
> N2RJ
>
> On Thu, Feb 15, 2018 at 10:18 AM, Ed Sawyer <sawyered@earthlink.net> wrote:
>> Actually, if you look at spots for 4U1WB when Masa operates outside of
>> contests – he generates A LOT of interest because of the unusual situation
>> and uniqueness of 4U1WB. When I operate as AC1U, I generate no such special
>> interest.
>>
>>
>>
>> Nothing prevents Masa from legally using AJ3M at the WB station. It’s a
>> duly licensed FCC radio operator operating a station in the US. There are
>> no “station licenses” in the US. Only operators in locations.
>>
>>
>>
>> If the point of being on this weekend is to hand out DC, he would be way
>> better off being AJ3M than 4U1WB. The opposite is the case in WPX.
>>
>>
>>
>> 73
>>
>>
>>
>> Ed N1UR
>>
>>
>>
>> From: David Siddall [mailto:hhamwv@gmail.com]
>> Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2018 9:49 AM
>> To: cq-contest
>> Cc: Ria Jairam; sawyered@earthlink.net
>>
>>
>> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] 4U1WB: ARRL DX Contest: Rule 6.1
>>
>>
>>
>> Come on, Ed, you know better. In WPX, there is no advantage of using 4U1
>> over, say, AC1.
>>
>>
>>
>> Masa's main station is 4U1WB, whether its WPX or any other contest. N1UR,
>> on the other hand, became AC1U for the two weekends and was the only AC1 in
>> the same contests. K3ZJ became WR8AA in a part-time effort on one of the
>> weekends too. All three of us were on equal ground callsign-wise. We each
>> used a callsign that, at least for entries, had a unique prefix.
>>
>>
>>
>> But among us, only Masa used the everyday normal callsign for the station he
>> operates from. And you were the only one to make a serious competitive
>> effort.
>>
>>
>>
>> BTW, had Masa operated elsewhere and used his personal callsign (AJ3M), it
>> also would have been a unique callsign in both modes.
>>
>>
>>
>> There is nothing wrong with any of this, but I would conclude that you used
>> a rare callsign to gain a competitive advantage; I used one to give out a
>> mult during my limited time on the air; and Masa just used the callsign of
>> the station he operated, as he usually does.
>>
>>
>>
>> So to say that "it does not seem fair" is, to me, twisted. Masa just did
>> his normal thing at his normal station. You did not.
>>
>>
>>
>> 73, Dave
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 15, 2018 at 8:43 AM, Ed Sawyer <sawyered@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>
>> You can put in the effort to improve antennas and location. But no matter
>> how much effort you put in, you can’t make up a call sign like 4U1WB. It
>> has to be bestowed on you.
>>
>>
>>
>> In the ARRL DX contest – its of no value – in fact its clearly a hinderence.
>> Being right, but having to repeat and explain is a contest killer. But in
>> WPX, no one cares where you are (other than wondering why the points for the
>> Q don’t look right), they just know they need a new prefix. Add that to the
>> fact that some percentage of callers probably think they just worked a new
>> one (4U1 must be UN HQ no?) and its just not good sportsmanship in my
>> opinion.
>>
>>
>>
>> 4U1WB and any other 4U1 should compete for NA not for W.
>>
>>
>>
>> 73
>>
>>
>>
>> Ed N1UR
>>
>>
>>
>> From: rjairam@gmail.com [mailto:rjairam@gmail.com]
>> Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2018 8:26 AM
>> To: sawyered@earthlink.net
>> Cc: cq-contest@contesting.com
>> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] 4U1WB: ARRL DX Contest: Rule 6.1
>>
>>
>>
>> Fair? Nothing is fair... might as well require everyone to operate with the
>> same antennas and location while you’re at it.
>>
>> Ria
>> N2RJ
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 15, 2018 at 8:23 AM Ed Sawyer <sawyered@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>
>> Masa, Why don't you just get a W3 call sign and avoid this mess? You will
>> never be competitive in ARRL DX having to explain who you are. I am sure
>> that many DX stations would be very happy to work a W3 from DC.
>>
>>
>>
>> As to WPX, a 4U1 callsign is clearly an advantage in a Prefix contest. It
>> does not seem fair to me that a 4U1 can compete equally with a W1 in the
>> WPX contest.
>>
>>
>>
>> Ed N1UR
>>
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