One other thing I highly suggest is when you are changing TNC's change from
whatever is your current TNC to "Dumb Terminal Unit" then maybe a writelog
restart and then to the TNC you want upon restart. This was something from
way back but I used this as a fix when nothing else seemed to work and it
worked for me - in addition to removing the rttyrite section(s).
I'm in a win 7 64 bit environment and after the "Dumb terminal" trick it is
up and running. I don't remember where I picked up that particular "fix"
from but I had to use it years ago when moving from a KAM to use MMTY and
it's most likely somewhere in the AA5AU documentation on setting up mmtty
but stand to be corrected.
Regards,
Dean - 8P6SH
On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 4:19 PM, Ed Muns <w0yk@msn.com> wrote:
> Thanks for the clarification, Jerry. That answers all my questions about
> your configuration and process. I see nothing wrong. I want to do some
> re-testing and see if I can reproduce what you and others are reporting.
>
> Ed W0YK
>
>
>
>
> Jerry W6IHG wrote:
> > Please notice that I did follow the advice being given and
> > removed the [rttyrite...] sections in the writelog.ini in the
> > virtual store location. That did not help. So then I removed
> > the entire writelog.ini to let writelog rebuild. That did not
> > work either!
> >
> > This is a Windows 7 Pro platform.
> >
> > In the two attempts I have made, I have restarted writelog
> > many times and each time I open a mmtty-plug-in window and
> > then try to either change the TNC settings from rttyrite or
> > try to close the mmtty window by changing tnc to stereo
> > soundboard AFSK rttyrite freezes requiring Task Manager to
> > kill it. The mmtty window will then close ok.
> >
> > So it is more than the first time writelog is started after
> > an install.
> > This was a full install (over writelog 11.08) as my key had
> > expired. So I don't know what happens with just an upgrade.
> >
> > One full install was to the ...Program Files... location and
> > one was to my c:\HamPrograms directory.
> >
> > What other tests can I do to help locate this issue?
> >
> > In rereading our messages carefully, I do see a slight
> > difference in what I did vs what you said. I believe I
> > deleted the [rtty...] sections before starting writelog and
> > rttyrite - not after the first freeze and kill process step.
> >
> > I do not have multiple versions of writelog in different
> > directories - I did uninstall when I want to put writelog
> > back where I wanted in c:\HamPrograms.
> >
> > Thanks to everyone who is trying to sort this out.
> >
> > Jerry, W6IHG
> >
> >
> > On 4/2/2013 4:14 PM, Ed Muns wrote:
> > > Jerry W6IHG wrote:
> > >> From the mail I think several of us are having the same problem
> > >> with 11.10.
> > >>
> > >> The basic problem is rttyrite freezes up when its tnc menu
> > is touched.
> > >
> > > Yes, this has been reported by several people here on the
> > reflector.
> > > I also experience this once in a while when I'm stressing
> > the software
> > > with my testing on various PCs. THE SOLUTION THAT HAS
> > ALWAYS WORKED FOR ME IS TO:
> > >
> > > 1. CLOSE WRITELOG.
> > > 2. OPEN WRITELOG.INI WITH A TEXT EDITOR. (WRITELOG.INI IS IN THE
> > > WINDOWS DIRECTORY ON XP AND EARLIER. ON VISTA AND LATER,
> > USE THE LINK
> > > TO WRITELOG.INI ON THE WRITELOG MENU IN YOUR PROGRAMS MENU FROM THE
> > > WINDOWS START BUTTON.) 3. FIND ALL [Rttyrite...] SECTIONS
> > AND DELETE
> > > THEM SAVE WRITELOG.INI AND EXIT THE TEXT EDITOR.
> > > 4. OPEN WRITELOG AND SETUP YOUR RTTYRITE WINDOW(S) AGAIN.
> > >
> > > NOTE: DON AND I SUSPECT THIS PROBLEM IS COMMON TO VISTA/WINDOWS
> > > 7/WINDOWS 8 SYSTEMS THAT USE THE VIRTUALSTORE. IT WOULD
> > HELP US TRACK
> > > DOWN THE PROBLEM IF THIS IS TRUE. HAS ANYONE HAD THE
> > FREEZE ISSUE ON
> > > WINDOWS XP (OR EARLIER OS)?
> > >
> > > I ALSO SUSPECT IT MAY ONLY HAPPEN WHEN YOU START WRITELOG THE FIRST
> > > TIME AFTER AN INSTALL OR UPGRADE. PLEASE ALSO CONFIRM OR DENY THIS?
> > >
> > > Sorry for the caps. I don't mean to shout, but several of us have
> > > posted this advice many times in the last four days and it
> > doesn't seem to be
> > > noticed. ;>)
> > >
> > >> I am just trying to get mmtty plug-in to work the same as
> > it has for
> > >> me in 11.08.
> > >
> > > Upgrading to 11.10G should require nothing unless you incur the
> > > freezing problem. MMTTY with the MMTTY Plug-In will
> > continue to work without change.
> > > Make sure 'MMTTY' is checked on the Rttyrite TNC menu. Do
> > not use the
> > > XMMT.ocx menu choice if you want to use the MMTTY Plug-In.
> > >
> > >> This morning, I uninstalled 11.08 again (after making a
> > >> backup) because it went in the wrong directory yesterday.
> > >>
> > >> I then installed 11.10 in c:\HamPrograms\Writelog\ I deleted the
> > >> [rttyrite] and [rttyrite2] sections from the writelog.ini in
> > >> ...virtualStore... and saved it.
> > >>
> > >> I then started writelog and opened a rttyrite window. Then
> > selected
> > >> mmtty. Had to point to the proper directory (I did not reinstall
> > >> mmtty).
> > >> The rtty control panel for mmtty opened.
> > >>
> > >> But as soon as I try to go to TNC Setup to adjust the mmtty
> > >> appearance, rttyrite freezes!
> > >>
> > >> When I also go to the Stereo Soundboard AFSK option,
> > rttyrite freezes
> > >> (that was the original problem I had).
> > >>
> > >> And somewhere along the line I had to reinstall the mmtty plugin
> > >> because I was getting errors messages about "failed to
> > create custom
> > >> ... tnc header"
> > >>
> > >> Also I have been unable to save the size and location of
> > the rttyrite
> > >> window using the Save Configuration option.
> > >>
> > >> I deleted the writelog.ini in ...virtualStore... to let writelog
> > >> build a new one. But that did not solve the problem.
> > >>
> > >> So basically I can not get back to the configuration of
> > mmtty that I
> > >> had with 11.08.
> > >>
> > >> Any ideas???? Meanwhile I have regressed back to writelog 11.08
> > >
> > > I assume your OS is Vista or later since you mention
> > VirtualStore. If
> > > I understand the description of your actions and problems,
> > it sounds
> > > like you did not delete the [Rttyrite...] sections in writelog.ini
> > > after you got the freeze. I understand you deleted the entire
> > > writelog.ini. That's not the same thing, so please try the
> > > instructions above when you encounter the freeze. Your
> > goal, after a
> > > freeze, is to edit the working writelog.ini file, not delete it.
> > > Deleting it probably means that WriteLog reverts to
> > initializing with
> > > the default writelog.ini file stored in Windows in an
> > earlier installation.
> > >
> > > I'm also a bit nervous about multiple installations of WriteLog in
> > > different directories. I don't know how the Registry and
> > VirtualStore
> > > behave in that case. If it were me, I'd uninstall all of them and
> > > only have one on the computer at a time.
> > >
> > >> Someone commented re: cleaning the registry values. Is
> > that necessary?
> > >
> > > I haven't heard this and I would relegate this to a last resort and
> > > only if you get clear instructions from someone really understands
> > > what to do. For me, the only person I'd trust is W5XD.
> > >
> > > Ed W0YK
> > >
> > >
> >
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