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Re: [VHFcontesting] JUNE/JULY VHF Contest Proposal and Operating Protoco

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Subject: Re: [VHFcontesting] JUNE/JULY VHF Contest Proposal and Operating Protocol
From: "Bob, W3IDT" <w3idt@comcast.net>
Reply-to: w3idt@comcast.net
Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2021 14:19:05 -0400
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Tim,

Thanks for your comments.

Leave the June contest alone! Every year someone comes up With a new plan
to give the East Coast an even larger advantage! I am Damn Tired Of It!

I'm not proposing changing rules in the short term, merely a "Contest within a Contest" during this JUNE and JULY contests.

Leave the point system ALONE as it is increasingly difficult to make
contacts as you go higher in freq. It has nothing to do with equipment
availability! Has more to do with Time & Money.

I specifically left the scoring - point system - as is.

If Signals are LOUD, being on FT8 makes increasingly less and less sense!
QSY to CW & SSB where stations can be worked at 300+ an hour, not a pewny
60!

ABSOLUTELY. I thought I stated that quite clearly.
Though your relative numbers, 300+ and 60, do seem a bit high...

This june contest should be on at least 6, ... here in DM09jh. Hope to work you all then!

Would be a pleasure :-)

Bob, w3idt
6m at W3SO / FN00
.......
. Robert F. Teitel, W3IDT
.
. w3idt@comcast.net
. w3idt@arrl.net
........

On 6/5/2021 8:52 PM, K7XC Tim Marek wrote:
Sprints while fun are poorly planned to be held one weekend before The June
QSO party. No one is going to waste there time when the real thing every
one prepairs months for is a week away!

Leave the June contest alone! Every year someone comes up With a new plan
to give the East Coast an even larger advantage! I am Damn Tired Of It!

Leave the point system ALONE as it is increasingly difficult to make
contacts as you go higher in freq. It has nothing to do with equipment
availability! Has more to do with Time & Money.

FT8 does NOT need to be limited to only 3 KHz of spectrum! 50.303 and every
5 KHz up thru  50.323 should be utilized during huge band openings.
Announce on .313, Slack, KST Chat, Cali VHF Chat, etc, your operating freq
and folks will find & spot you. This is true outside of contests as well!

If Signals are LOUD, being on FT8 makes increasingly less and less sense!
QSY to CW & SSB where stations can be worked at 300+ an hour, not a pewny
60!

Using FT8 to work folks in the same and nearby grids is not only time
consuming, but Stupid as well as you're now blocking folks from hearing
people that are truly far away.

Where Did Everyones Common Sense Go?

Spin those antennas to non typical paths to CQ and LISTEN LISTEN LISTEN!
You cant work new ones if you dont try to!

Before I grew old and poor, each Sumner back in 80s, 90s, and early 2000s
you would find me activating rare grids in NV. Unable to do so now,  I am
very proud of the new breed of ROVERs who are doing so with great gusto!
Good Job Guys! These are the guys to learn from.

This june contest should be on at least 6, 2, & possibly 222 and 432 from
home here in DM09jh. Hope to work you all then!

73s & GL de Tim - K7XC - DM09jh... sk

Adapt, Overcome, Succeed!









On Sat, Jun 5, 2021, 15:11 Zack Widup <w9sz.zack@gmail.com> wrote:

I actually worked four stations this morning. AND I made 7 QSO's with
K9JK/R. Somehow he managed to hit four grid squares in half an hour and we
worked on both CW and SSB on three of them. The last was an SSB QSO in the
last minute and we didn't have time to go to CW.

That's more QSO's in half an hour than I made in three hours in the 222 and
432 Spring Sprints. There was a lot more activity in the 144 Spring Sprint
here - I managed 20 QSO's with 13 different stations in that one (quite a
few Rovers out).

73, Zack W9SZ


On Sat, Jun 5, 2021 at 4:44 PM Dave <kdcarlso@gmail.com> wrote:

This morning pretty much convinced me that few people actually want a
change or a return to a traditional contest. I participated in the sprint
this morning and worked two stations. When presented with an option. No
one, at least in my area which is a pretty active VHF+ region, bothered
to
participate. I guess most want to complain and few want to participate.

Dave
N2OA



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