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Re: [VHFcontesting] [amsat-bb] [VHF] 5 Band VUCC Award

To: John Geiger <af5cc2@gmail.com>, Paul Andrews <w2hro.fn20@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [VHFcontesting] [amsat-bb] [VHF] 5 Band VUCC Award
From: Galen Gold <kb6ee@galengold.me>
Reply-to: Galen Gold <kb6ee@galengold.me>
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2019 21:22:38 +0000
List-post: <mailto:vhfcontesting@contesting.com>
President of W2SZ (not /1) here, Logbook of the World says we have all of them 
except Fred Fish, 222, and 2G, but my guess is we got those long enough ago 
that they aren't on LOTW.

73,
Galen Gold
KB6EE

On Mon, Apr 22, 2019 at 17:13, John Geiger <af5cc2@gmail.com> wrote:

> Probably W2SZ/1, except for the satellite VUCC.
>
> 73 John AF5CC
>
> On Mon, Apr 22, 2019 at 3:32 PM Paul Andrews via AMSAT-BB <
> amsat-bb@amsat.org> wrote:
>
>> With regards to 5 Band VUCC. I think that satellite VUCC (100 QSOs) is
>> just another band. (more accurate - Sat is a mode)
>>
>> The ARRL identifies 10 VUCC bands between 50 MHz and 10 GHz. Satellite is
>> just the 11th VUCC band.
>>
>> Complete VUCC in any 5 bands and earn the 5BVUCC. Am I missing something?
>>
>> Has anyone completed VUCC in all 11 bands?
>>
>> 73 - Paul - W2HRO
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>> On Mon, Apr 22, 2019 at 3:58 PM K7XC Tim Marek via AMSAT-BB <
>> amsat-bb@amsat.org> wrote:
>>
>> > A 5 Band VUCC award sound interesting. Would it allow existing VUCC
>> > contacts already in LOTW
>> > to be used for credit or require all New & Separate ones?
>> >
>> > Currently the existing VUCC rules however state that Repeater Like QSOs
>> are
>> > NOT allowed,
>> > and that means NO Satellites!
>> >
>> > I agree with the rules as written and cant support adding Non Terrestrial
>> > contacts to a Terrestrial award!
>> >
>> > If we allow this to happen it muddies the waters from that point on,
>> > disrespecting everyone who in the
>> > past worked their butts off to accomplish something not easy to do. The
>> > fact it was hard made the goal
>> > worth chasing. The argument its too hard and discourages others Holds No
>> > Water. If you want something
>> > bad enough you will do whats needed to get it.
>> >
>> > I reject your proposal to include Satellite QSOs with Terrestrial QSOs
>> and
>> > encourage others to do as well.
>> >
>> > 73s de Tim - K7XC - DM09jh... sk
>> >
>> > Adapt, Overcome, Succeed!
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Mon, Apr 22, 2019 at 3:32 PM Les Rayburn <les@highnoonfilm.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > > John,
>> > >
>> > > My proposal would allow “Satellite VUCC” to count towards 5BVUCC. The
>> > idea
>> > > is to allow the ARRL to create the new award with minimal programming
>> > > changes needed to LoTW and minimal cost to implement.
>> > >
>> > > So far, this suggestion has netted over 40 replies to me in less than
>> 12
>> > > hours. Response has been very positive. I would urge anyone who
>> supports
>> > > this effort to contact their ARRL Section Managers and let them know
>> > about
>> > > the idea—and that you’d like to see it implemented.
>> > >
>> > > In the Southeast Section, we’re lucky to have Greg Sarratt, W4OZK as
>> our
>> > > representative. Greg is active on VHF/UHF weak signal already. Need to
>> > get
>> > > him on the satellites more though!
>> > >
>> > > :-)
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > 73,
>> > >
>> > > Les Rayburn, N1LF
>> > > Maylene, AL
>> > > EM63nf
>> > > AMSAT #38965, ARRL Life Member, CVHS Life Member, SVHF Member
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > > On Apr 22, 2019, at 8:11 AM, John Brier <johnbrier@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > Would this proposed 5 band VUCC allow satellite and direct contacts?
>> > > >
>> > > > On Mon, Apr 22, 2019 at 9:01 AM David Kerl via AMSAT-BB
>> > > > <amsat-bb@amsat.org <mailto:amsat-bb@amsat.org>> wrote:
>> > > >>
>> > > >> Hello Les,
>> > > >> That should generate some incentive for more V/U/uwave activity. I
>> > would
>> > > >> certainly work towards that end.
>> > > >> Dave
>> > > >> N9HF
>> > > >> el99
>> > > >>
>> > > >> "Back in my day" doesn't have a place in ham radio any more.
>> > > >>
>> > > >>
>> > > >> On Sun, Apr 21, 2019 at 10:50 PM Les Rayburn via VHF <
>> > > vhf@w6yx.stanford.edu <mailto:vhf@w6yx.stanford.edu>>
>> > > >> wrote:
>> > > >>
>> > > >>> Lady & Gentlemen,
>> > > >>>
>> > > >>> Not certain if my earlier message was received. No reply from
>> anyone
>> > on
>> > > >>> the distribution list. Here it is again, in case the first one was
>> > > lost in
>> > > >>> cyberspace.
>> > > >>>
>> > > >>> In an effort to stimulate activity on VHF/UHF bands beyond 70 CM,
>> I’d
>> > > like
>> > > >>> to suggest the creation of a Five Band VUCC (5B VUCC) award that
>> > would
>> > > >>> closely mirror the 5 Band DXCC Award.
>> > > >>>
>> > > >>> Successful applicants would need to achieve VUCC status on five or
>> > > more of
>> > > >>> the VHF/UHF bands to be eligible for the larger award. A special
>> > > >>> certificate and pin could be created to honor recipients.
>> > > >>>
>> > > >>> My feeling is that this award would encourage greater activity on
>> the
>> > > >>> VHF/UHF bands, especially on bands that have less use like 222,
>> 1296,
>> > > and
>> > > >>> higher microwave bands. This increased activity encourages the sale
>> > of
>> > > more
>> > > >>> gear, helps protect our spectrum from commercial interests, and
>> > > advances
>> > > >>> the state of the radio art.
>> > > >>>
>> > > >>> Please let me know if you think this idea has any merit, or what I
>> > > could
>> > > >>> do to help support the creation of the new award. As always,
>> grateful
>> > > for
>> > > >>> your service to the hobby.
>> > > >>>
>> > > >>>
>> > > >>>
>> > > >>> 73,
>> > > >>>
>> > > >>> Les Rayburn, N1LF
>> > > >>> 121 Mayfair Park
>> > > >>> Maylene, AL 35114
>> > > >>> EM63nf
>> > > >>> AMSAT #38965, ARRL Life Member, CVHS Life Member, SVHF Member
>> > > >>>
>> > > >>>
>> > > >>>
>> > > >>>
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