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Re: [VHFcontesting] Logging Rovers in Contests

To: W5PR <w5prchuck@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [VHFcontesting] Logging Rovers in Contests
From: James Duffey <jamesduffey@comcast.net>
Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2015 18:06:00 -0600
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The rule says that you have to log the call that is sent. KK6MC/r is not the 
same as KK6MC. Adding /r does change your call for contesting purposes. That is 
the whole point of adding the /r.

Can you explain in more detail why you feel it problematic to log the call with 
a /r? I must confess I don’t understand your point.

Listen for the weak ones. - Duffey


On Jun 12, 2015, at 5:57 PM, W5PR <w5prchuck@gmail.com> wrote:

> Just because I am a rover doesn't change my call.  I have to log the call is 
> all the rule says. That's what I will do. Interesting conversation though. 
> 
> Chuck W5PR
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On Jun 12, 2015, at 6:35 PM, James Duffey <jamesduffey@comcast.net> wrote:
>> 
>> Chuck - In the General Rules for all ARRL Contests:
>> 
>> “3.2. All callsigns and exchange information must be sent, received, 
>> acknowledged and logged correctly by each station for a complete QSO."
>> 
>> If you don’t log KK6MC/r when you work KK6MC/r you did not log the correct 
>> call. If you log KK6MC when you have actually worked KK6MC/r, you have 
>> logged the incorrect call. KK6MC/r and KK6MC are two different calls. You 
>> stand the risk of the log checkers declaring the QSO void or nil because you 
>> did not copy the correct call as indicated by your log entry. You violated 
>> General Rule 3.2. 
>> 
>> It is all pretty clear if you read all the rules. May be not obvious, but 
>> clear.  
>> 
>> Granted, it is confusing having the rules for VHF contests in 3 different 
>> places, and that should be corrected, but it is stated in all of the rules 
>> that the others also apply and you should read all of them. Just read all 
>> the rules.
>> 
>> I am not sure what the issue is in logging KK6MC/r instead of KK6MC. If it 
>> is a problem, let the ARRL know why it is a problem. If it is not a problem, 
>> do it.
>> 
>> Get on. Work us. Log us. Submit your log. Easy. - Duffey KK6MC/r
>> 
>> 
>>> Message: 9
>>> Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2015 17:22:47 -0500
>>> From: Chuck Dietz <w5prchuck@gmail.com>
>>> To: VHF Contesting Reflector <vhfcontesting@contesting.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [VHFcontesting] Logging Rovers in Contests
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>>> AND, this rule seems to indicate you don't need the "/R" as long as it is
>>> from a different grid.
>>> 
>>> *7.2. *Stations may be worked for credit only once per band from any given
>>> grid square,
>>> 
>>> regardless of mode. This does not prohibit working a station from more than
>>> one grid square
>>> 
>>> with the same call sign (such as a Rover).
>>> 
>>> Chuck W5PR
>>> 
>>>> On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 5:08 PM, Chuck Dietz <w5prchuck@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> A lot of opinions, but no clarification in the rules.  Yes, rovers have to
>>>> sign "/R" so everyone will know they are not dupes, but nothing says they
>>>> have to be logged as "/R"  The only remote use would be for a rover who
>>>> operates a non-rover entry from the same grid as he started/finished roving
>>>> from.  Far fetched, but you might lose a Q if you didn't put the /R after
>>>> one of the contacts.
>>>> 
>>>> Chuck W5PR
>>>> 
>>>>> On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 4:57 PM, Marshall-K5QE <k5qe@k5qe.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hello Chuck....The /R is required for ARRL contests....that is what I
>>>>> believe....I may be wrong.
>>>>> 
>>>>> GL tomorrow and Sun
>>>>> 
>>>>> 73 Marshall K5QE
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 6/12/2015 12:30 PM, Chuck Dietz wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I think many put "/R" after a rover call when logging it in a contest.  I
>>>>> have never done that.  If the grid changes, Writelog takes it.  Is there
>>>>> any necessity or rule about this?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Chuck W5PR
>>> 
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