i.e.: Get people on the air.,,,,
I haven't heard a lot about this on this reflector or the other email
lists, BUT.....
Isn't it really ridiculous to have 13 (or is it 14) entrance
categories
for the VHF contests? With decreasing participation it's getting to be
that some of the categories only have only one (or NO) entries!!!
Not to play the "old guy" card, but I will anyway (Hi Wayne!!) In
the 50's
60's when I started contesting there were only 2 categories, single
op,
multiop. The participation was at an all time high then. now,
what's the
deal?? everyone gets a trophy??? OR.. no one wants to get on the air
unless they are guaranteed to win??>
All that being said, I will get on for the contests no matter what
because
it's fun. I don't have any pretense of being able to WIN.. I just
like to
be able to work the guys.. and operating when other stations are on
the
air is FUN!
back in the day we made an occasional phone call to get someone on the
air... We still made the actual contact "on the air".
I totally embrace the rover category. I think if I had my way there
would
be THREE entrant categories, SO, MO, Rover. but realize this brings
up new
issues.. can we just start to get SANE about this? Does anyone really
think 13 or 14 entrance categories is good for VHF contesting???
bill, K1DY (ex w3HQT)
From: rick1ds@hotmail.com
To: k2txb@dxcc.com; packrats@mailman.qth.net
Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2015 12:33:10 -0500
CC: hwardsil@gmail.com; w1msw@arrl.org
Subject: Re: [Packrats] What N0AX says about "Assistance"
Everyone is a bit confused at this point as to what these new
categories
of "unlimited" or "assisted" stations can or cannot do.
Additionally, if
this applies to MAP65 for EME, does this also create new categories
for
the EME contest? Patience--hopefully we'll all find out when Ward
andor
Matt make this clearer on the VHF reflectors and answer some
questions we
have.
From: k2txb@dxcc.com
To: rick1ds@hotmail.com; packrats@mailman.qth.net
Subject: RE: [Packrats] What N0AX says about "Assistance"
Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2015 08:54:11 -0500
Hi Rick & all. That paragraph is hard to understand in the context
shown,
and even in context. The context is that it applies to the Single
Operator Unlimited. However when it says “not physically locat4ed
at the
station is permitted”, that is very unclear at least to me. Does that
mean one could use cw skimmer if it is not located at the station, but
could not use it if it was located at the station? Very poorly
written
rule, I think. Also the exception, “spotting information obtained
from any
source
outside the station boundary via a closed or dedicated communication
link may not be used.”. So does that rule out the internet if
connected
via a wire line? How about if you are receiving internet via
satellite…?
I suspect that that exception is trying to say that one cannot set
up a
private link to a remote receiver and use that for spotting (or for
other
contest purposes I would presume), but why not say that? Well, just
my two
cents… I don’t like assisted classes for contests anyway… 73, Russ
K2TXB
From: Packrats [mailto:packrats-bounces@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf
Of Rick
R
Sent: Friday, January 02, 2015 9:56 PM
To: packrats reflector
Subject: [Packrats] What N0AX says about "Assistance" In the
absence of
alternative rulings from HQ about what constitutes the
boundary between SO and SOU, I would use the following from the HF
Rules
(http://www.arrl.org/general-rules-for-arrl-contests-below-30-mhz):
*2.2.1.*Use of spotting assistance or nets (operating arrangements
involving other individuals, DX-alerting nets, packet, multi-channel
decoders such as CW Skimmer, etc) not physically located at the
station
is permitted. (Exception: spotting information obtained from any
source
outside the station boundary via a closed or dedicated communication
link may not be used.)
Before anybody gets cranked up about HF rules in VHF+ contests,
remember
that the original recommendation was only to create SOU in all ARRL HF
contests and it was the P&SC which extended it to VHF+ without any
additional discussion. So the original recommendation was based on
2.2.1 as above. That definition needs to be broadened and made less
dependent on specific technology but it will suffice for now.
73, Ward N0AX
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