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Re: [VHFcontesting] My Proposal to the VUAC

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Subject: Re: [VHFcontesting] My Proposal to the VUAC
From: Dustin <ke5clr@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 22:00:42 -0500
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I have to respectfully disagree. I think the people who are going to 
operate the contest are going to do so with or without "assistance" but 
you might just get a few more on if they sit down at their computer and 
low and behold 6 is open "I think I will get on for a bit." This is an 
increase in activity isn't that a good thing? More activity = more 
contacts even if they were looking at a logger. Which brings  me to the 
next point, YOU don't have to look at the logger. That leaves you in the 
unassisted class. Also your point on "micro openings" is well made and I 
do agree there. You will never be able to work those by spotting.

Just my $0.02  





Duane - N9DG wrote
> To put it simply the proponents of prop loggers being allowed in VHF contest 
> will contend that ops will do both, i.e. use the prop logger and call CQ. My 
> contention is that will not be the case for a large percentage of the ops who 
> get on during a VHF contest. I do believe that I have the evidence to support 
> that by watching the behavior and activity between contests by paying 
> attention to the VHF prop loggers. What you will see occur is this:
>
> 1. The band will be quiet until someone calls CQ or otherwise finds DX.
> 2. That person posts it to the logger.
> 3. Almost immediately there will be a bunch more activity.
>
> The converse of this is that someone will call CQ and find some DX. They 
> don't / can't post it. So no spike in band activity. So, the question then 
> becomes who is more at "fault" for the lack of activity:
>
> a) The one who works DX and doesn't post it?
>
> or
>
> b) The ones who didn't bother to "get on" and call CQ or search the bands for 
> themselves?
>
> My further contention is that an even greater dependence on logger pages will 
> evolve if it becomes a central piece to VHF contesting. Is this what we 
> really want VHF contesting to become?
>
> I also believe that unlike HF the drop in "active working of the bands" by 
> the more casual ops will hurt VHF contesting in general. On HF the dilution 
> of the spot followers is more than made up for by the much larger base of 
> participation.
>
> Now keep in mind I do not see this being a problem with the serious or bigger 
> gun ops. They in all likelihood will do both, doing everything that is 
> contest legal is how they place well or win after all. It is the casual, and 
> ops without access to prop loggers / assistance that I worry about. 
>
> And as a side note I have observed over the years that in a typical upper 
> Midwest January VHF contest that there are numerous "micro openings", or 
> "enhancements" as I like to call them, most lasting 5 minutes or less, and 
> good for another 100-200 miles of reach on an otherwise flat band. Would 
> those depending prop logger assistance ever find them? The only effective way 
> to catch them is to call CQ, rotate the antenna, and sweep the bands as much 
> as you can. And if all ops were doing that then everyone would find more of 
> them and each other.
>
> Duane
> N9DG
>
>
>
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