No kidding. How many people have actually given up roving or contesting
because of grid circling? I know going into every contest that I am not going
to win, regardless of my category. Should I then quit contesting??? I guess
so! Whatever happened to contesting because it is fun, regardless of the
outcome?
We get back to what I originally said about open logs-it just gives more people
ammunition to go after those who don't contest the way some think they should.
I would guess that the grid circlers would work anyone else who called them
during a band opening as well as the circling partners, so they did work as
many stations as they could.
73s John AA5JG
--- On Fri, 12/5/08, Nathaniel Lee <n1bnc@yahoo.com> wrote:
> From: Nathaniel Lee <n1bnc@yahoo.com>
> Subject: [VHFcontesting] grid circling bashing, end it
> To: vhfcontesting@contesting.com
> Date: Friday, December 5, 2008, 8:47 AM
> Jeeez, guys, lighten up. Ham radio is a hobby. Unchristian?
> What does that have to do with radio??? Destroying the
> hobby?? There is other life below 6 meters that seems to
> be
> doing well so I suspect not.
>
> 73 all and may your upcoming holidays be happy ones.
>
> Nat Lee
> Somersworth, NH
>
>
>
>
> >
> > > Subject: [VHFcontesting] grid circling bashing
> > > To: vhfcontesting@contesting.com
> > > Date: Friday, December 5, 2008, 9:31 AM
> > > AH8M wrote
> > >
> > > "° Grid Circling is causing less activity
> and
> > > destroying the hobby - ( it has no effect, it is
> just
> > adding
> > > another type of activity, hence more
> activity)"
> > >
> > > Wrong ____people are giving up roving tatics that
> work
> > > everyone to compete this way or giving up roving
> all
> > > together because they cant compete with grid
> circlers
> > who
> > > now dominate all three catagories even though you
> > acknowlege
> > > its a seperate activity. Dominating all three
> rover
> > > catagories as a bunch of grid circlers despite
> the
> > attempted
> > > comprimise is destructive and against the the
> stated
> > puropse
> > > of the ARRL comprimise/ rule change.
> > > "° Grid Circling community is a bunch of
> dirty
> > > commies like the old Soviets and North
> Koreans"
> > > I never said that, I made an analogy.
> > > "° Grid Circling is unchristian"
> > > Another acknowlegment of sunday school lesson
> that is
> > an
> > > analogy of a fruit tree, so I guess I'm
> saying
> > these
> > > guys are bad trees as well.
> > > "° Grid Circling is not friendly"
> > >
> > > Well let me correct that one as well and it's
> my
> > > opinion. Grid circling is not all inclusive in a
> > contest
> > > whoes spirit is to encourage everyone to work as
> many
> > people
> > > as possible. Perhaps the fall out of them
> entering
> > logs in
> > > all three rover catagories after the ARRL gave
> them
> > their
> > > own catagory causes some unfriendlyness on here.
> > > "° Publishing logs will show grid circling.
> ( no
> > > need, we all know already it's done and they
> are
> > > justifiably pround of it )"
> > >
> > > Many people on here do not get what we are
> talking
> > about.
> > > They say our complaints are baseless, but when we
> say
> > one of
> > > the ways to prove it is to post the logs, they
> duck
> > ffor
> > > cover and say the ARRL has no right to post the
> logs.
> > I
> > > would use a childhood analogy here, but you would
> > think
> > > I'm calling them spoiled little kids or
> something
> > to
> > > that effect.
> > > "° Grid circles are not in harmony with the
> > > ecosystem"
> > >
> > > Another jump here. Not posting logs is not
> harmony.
> > Why
> > > are our dues paying for awards when we cant see
> how
> > the
> > > competitors earned them? Do you pay Joe the
> plumber
> > without
> > > an invoice? I do know we bailout wall street
> without
> > one.
> > > So I suppose I just said the grid circlers are
> bad
> > plumbers
> > > fleecing us on wall street and are not likely to
> give
> > us
> > > much credit.
> > >
> > > Also ecosystems are give and take by everyone in
> the
> > > system, grid circlers just work each other to
> win. Its
> > a
> > > fair compairison.
> > >
> > > This is what I meant on how an open debate gets
> > twisted
> > > when people are uncomfortable.
> > >
> > > Thes guys are well educucated well equiped and
> well
> > > organized.
> > > They stated that they originally started doing
> this
> > > behavior to show the flaws in the contest.
> > > So in doing this they know they are generating a
> > problem.
> > > I don't know if its to win or to get at the
> ARRL.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
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