Jeeez, guys, lighten up. Ham radio is a hobby. Unchristian?
What does that have to do with radio??? Destroying the
hobby?? There is other life below 6 meters that seems to be
doing well so I suspect not.
73 all and may your upcoming holidays be happy ones.
Nat Lee
Somersworth, NH
>
> > Subject: [VHFcontesting] grid circling bashing
> > To: vhfcontesting@contesting.com
> > Date: Friday, December 5, 2008, 9:31 AM
> > AH8M wrote
> >
> > "° Grid Circling is causing less activity and
> > destroying the hobby - ( it has no effect, it is just
> adding
> > another type of activity, hence more activity)"
> >
> > Wrong ____people are giving up roving tatics that work
> > everyone to compete this way or giving up roving all
> > together because they cant compete with grid circlers
> who
> > now dominate all three catagories even though you
> acknowlege
> > its a seperate activity. Dominating all three rover
> > catagories as a bunch of grid circlers despite the
> attempted
> > comprimise is destructive and against the the stated
> puropse
> > of the ARRL comprimise/ rule change.
> > "° Grid Circling community is a bunch of dirty
> > commies like the old Soviets and North Koreans"
> > I never said that, I made an analogy.
> > "° Grid Circling is unchristian"
> > Another acknowlegment of sunday school lesson that is
> an
> > analogy of a fruit tree, so I guess I'm saying
> these
> > guys are bad trees as well.
> > "° Grid Circling is not friendly"
> >
> > Well let me correct that one as well and it's my
> > opinion. Grid circling is not all inclusive in a
> contest
> > whoes spirit is to encourage everyone to work as many
> people
> > as possible. Perhaps the fall out of them entering
> logs in
> > all three rover catagories after the ARRL gave them
> their
> > own catagory causes some unfriendlyness on here.
> > "° Publishing logs will show grid circling. ( no
> > need, we all know already it's done and they are
> > justifiably pround of it )"
> >
> > Many people on here do not get what we are talking
> about.
> > They say our complaints are baseless, but when we say
> one of
> > the ways to prove it is to post the logs, they duck
> ffor
> > cover and say the ARRL has no right to post the logs.
> I
> > would use a childhood analogy here, but you would
> think
> > I'm calling them spoiled little kids or something
> to
> > that effect.
> > "° Grid circles are not in harmony with the
> > ecosystem"
> >
> > Another jump here. Not posting logs is not harmony.
> Why
> > are our dues paying for awards when we cant see how
> the
> > competitors earned them? Do you pay Joe the plumber
> without
> > an invoice? I do know we bailout wall street without
> one.
> > So I suppose I just said the grid circlers are bad
> plumbers
> > fleecing us on wall street and are not likely to give
> us
> > much credit.
> >
> > Also ecosystems are give and take by everyone in the
> > system, grid circlers just work each other to win. Its
> a
> > fair compairison.
> >
> > This is what I meant on how an open debate gets
> twisted
> > when people are uncomfortable.
> >
> > Thes guys are well educucated well equiped and well
> > organized.
> > They stated that they originally started doing this
> > behavior to show the flaws in the contest.
> > So in doing this they know they are generating a
> problem.
> > I don't know if its to win or to get at the ARRL.
> >
> >
> >
> >
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