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Re: [VHFcontesting] vucc

To: Eugene Zimmerman <ezimmerm@erols.com>,vhfcontesting@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [VHFcontesting] vucc
From: "Walter O'Brien, W2WJO" <w2wjo@walterobrien.com>
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 15:45:32 -0500
List-post: <mailto:vhfcontesting@contesting.com>
But it is still great news, and thanks for your effort! Now all my  
club (K2OAK) QSL's count for one award!

73 Walter W2WJO





On Feb 12, 2007, at 3:35 PM, Eugene Zimmerman wrote:

> Walter
>
> You are absolutely correct. I had forgotten that little glitch.
>
> So I take back everything I said about "logical". Logical would  
> have been a definition like that for club territory [though that  
> one has some problems outside the scope of this thread]. The  
> current VUCC rule is thus not logical. I am happy however that I  
> remain the most uninfluential editor of the World Above.
>
> 73  Gene W3ZZ
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Walter O'Brien, W2WJO"  
> <w2wjo@walterobrien.com>
> To: "Eugene Zimmerman" <ezimmerm@erols.com>;  
> <vhfcontesting@contesting.com>
> Sent: Monday, February 12, 2007 3:08 PM
> Subject: Re: [VHFcontesting] vucc
>
>
> Gene,
>
> It's not really a circle with a 200 km radius. I'm pretty sure that's
> was meant, but without trying to ignite a flame war over what is
> really good news, it's not technically what was said.
>
> The rule says: For VUCC awards on 50 through 1296 MHz and Satellite,
> all contacts must be made from locations no more than 200km
> apart.
>
> So if you draw that 200km circle around your main QTH, you can pick a
> second on the edge of that circle and you'd be fine. No QTH in or on
> the perimeter of that circle would be more than 200km apart from the
> first QTH.
>
> But if you pick a third QTH on the opposite edge of the circle, you
> would be 200km from the main QTH, but you'd be 400km away (apart)
> from the second QTH, and not acceptable! "all contacts must be made
> from locations no more than 200km apart."
>
> I'm sure that they meant what you said, but that's not what they  
> wrote!
>
> 73 Walter W2WJO
>
>
>
>
> On Feb 12, 2007, at 2:37 PM, Eugene Zimmerman wrote:
>
>> Hi Frank
>>
>> It's now a circle with a RADIUS of 200 km. Not any other shape  
>> but  a CIRCLE.
>>
>> The VUCC distance rule used to be anywhere within your own grid   
>> square OR
>> within a 50 km radius circle if outside your grid square. It was   
>> clearly
>> unfair and illogical that the distance depended on being in your   
>> own grid
>> square. The new present rule is a 200 km radius circle to conform   
>> with the
>> longest average distance between the corners of a grid square  
>> ~129  miles or
>> ~200 km. 200 km is chosen to be a round number.
>>
>> I had been agitating - without success - essentially since VUCC   
>> started 25
>> years ago to do away with the original distance rule. Now finally   
>> that has
>> happened. We should be thankful for small favors.
>>
>> 73  Gene W3ZZ
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "frank bechdoldt" <k3uhf@hotmail.com>
>> To: <vhfcontesting@contesting.com>
>> Sent: Monday, February 12, 2007 1:36 AM
>> Subject: [VHFcontesting] vucc
>>
>>
>>> I drew out what ones field to work others in under the 200km  
>>> rule.  You
>>> would basicly form a triangle with round edges where all the   
>>> points you
>>> opperated would all be within the 200 km per side triangle. the   
>>> triangle
>>> with the round sides looks more like a guitar pick. however your  
>>> triangle
>>> could easily turn into a trapa zoid if one of the points isnt   
>>> really 200km
>>> from the other 2.
>>>
>>> Basicly you need to plot your hilltops on a map and find the   
>>> pattern best
>>> for you.
>>>
>>> k3uhf
>>>
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