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Re: [VHFcontesting] Grid circling time limit problem....possiblesoluti

To: Ed Kucharski <k3dne@adelphia.net>,David Olean <k1whs@worldpath.net>, Fred Lass <felasstic@yahoo.com>,vhfcontesting@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [VHFcontesting] Grid circling time limit problem....possiblesolution.
From: John Geiger <johngeig@yahoo.com>
Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2004 19:59:16 -0800 (PST)
List-post: <mailto:vhfcontesting@contesting.com>
I would get excited if I worked a scheduled QSO on
432.  I must be a real little pistol.

73s John NE0P

--- Ed Kucharski <k3dne@adelphia.net> wrote:
> Dave,
> Congrats on the "New Grandpa Dave" status!
> Oops!  You're right (as well as a couple of others
> that responded to my 
> comment).   I interpreted Fred's comment
> incorrectly.  I was thinking more 
> about the random vs. scheduled concept than as a
> function of 
> frequency.   He did state VHF - UHF random contacts
> and I was thinking 
> lower microwave contacts (903 - 3456 in my case). 
> Certainly, making random 
> contacts on the microwave bands (even the lower
> microwave bands) are more 
> difficult (loud locals the exception) than with
> scheduled contacts in this 
> range.  Random contacts on VHF and UHF (50 - 432)
> are even less technically 
> challenging - although I still get excited when I
> work a random 500+ mile 
> QSO on 222 or 432.
> 73,
> Ed K3DNE
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> At 02:22 AM 2/28/2004 +0000, David Olean wrote:
> >Ed,
> >     I have to agree with Mr. Lass. I would not
> compare a scheduled 5 or 10
> >GHz  rover contact with a random VHF contact unless
> my frequency accuracy
> >was +/- 30 kHz on 144 depending on what time of day
> it was, and my beamwidth
> >on 144 was 2 degrees or less.  I had to true up the
> tower to make sure my 10
> >GHz beamwidth was including the horizon. I didn't
> do that on the two meter
> >beam.   Now add the same problem on the other end
> and there ain't no way I
> >would say that a  random VHF or UHF contact is the
> same as one of these
> >rover skeds. We are not even talking about the
> perceived path loss variation
> >between bands either.  Power output? The situation
> may be a little better on
> >the lower microwave bands, but my 3456 beamwidth is
> under 3 degrees too.
> >     Maybe if the 10 GHz rover was very close by,
> you could say it was easy,
> >but most contacts we make are pretty long haul. If
> it was easy on
> >microwaves, it would not be half the fun!
> >73
> >Dave K1WHS
> >(New Grandpa Dave)
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Ed Kucharski" <k3dne@adelphia.net>
> >To: "Fred Lass" <felasstic@yahoo.com>;
> <vhfcontesting@contesting.com>
> >Sent: Friday, February 27, 2004 10:19 PM
> >Subject: Re: [VHFcontesting] Grid circling time
> limit problem....possible
> >solution.
> >
> >
> > > At 01:12 PM 2/27/2004 -0800, Fred Lass wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > >I do not see a problem with a large M/M group
> sending a microwave rover
> >to
> > > >a distant grid square.  The technical challenge
> of such QSO's are far
> > > >greater than random VHF or UHF contacts.
> > > >
> > > >73,  Fred  K2TR
> > >
> > > Neither do I.  As long as that rover QSO's with
> other stations in ADDITION
> > > to the "large M/M group" and any associated
> rovers who sent that microwave
> > > rover out to the distant grid square(s).  I
> don't see the technical
> > > challenge being greater than random VHF or UHF
> contacts however.  Random
> > > QSO's most certainly are more challenging than
> pre-arranged (scheduled)
> >QSO's.
> > > 73,
> > > Ed K3DNE
> > >
> > >
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