At Dayton/Xenia antenna forum this year 2022, N9NB had a pretty
interesting talk on low band verticals. The key take-away from that was
that you could reasonably determine your actual ground loss based on VNA
measurement of your antenna, and comparing it with the model of same.
Of course the caviets apply - the more simple and idealized your antenna
is in reality, the easier it is to closely model the reality of the
install and get a better set of ideal numbers to compare the measured
against.
I had what I thought was a compromised set of 80m vertical grounds on my
4SQ but after measuring it and comparing to my model, the result was a
ground resistance of a few ohms - far better than I had expected. So
instead of fiddling with improving my ground system this year as
anticipated, I decided to call CQ instead - and not worry about the
fraction of a dB that I'm losing due to a less than ideal ground system.
73/jeff/ac0c
alpha-charlie-zero-charlie
www.ac0c.com
On 12/2/2022 12:29 PM, Jim Brown wrote:
On 12/2/2022 8:22 AM, WESLEY ATTAWAY wrote:
I think you would have to look at the details re the really loud
stations. They probably do have good radial systems and also have
particularly good ground/water/soil for fairly long distances around
the antenna.
YES! The earth is a big resistor. Soil quality affects transmitter
field strength two ways. First, loss in the soil very close to the
antenna make the antenna less efficient. Radials reduce this
component. Second, loss in the far field, distant from the antenna.
There's nothing we can do about this. There's an excellent discussion
of this in one of the ARRL publications, either the Antenna Book or
the ON4UN book.
73, Jim K9YC
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