Probably of limited help to your question, but in 2003 I replaced a TH-7
(actually serial #1)
and installed a 72 foot self-supporting tower with a CAL-AV 2 el 40 and
OB16-3 triband.
The base of the tower was 8 feet from the property line.
I received a complaint. A woman driving by saw the tower and noted it was
close to the
next door house, decided to call planning and ask how close a tower could be
(the damn
busybody!), and the inspector issued the complaint because the antenna
elements crossed
that property line.
BUT WE ALSO OWN THAT HOUSE, we were only crossing our own property line!
I did discuss with planning folks if the two houses could be combined into a
single lot,
but there were severe restrictions, including that the two houses had to be
connected
completely including enclosed connections for people and air/heating, and
the city did
not like changing lot sizes in existing developments.
So we went to the formal planning commission meeting, where we were
surprised by the
only neighbor who can actually see the tower (trees blocked view of others)
who
was there to say he liked how the tower looked and had no problem with it!
I explained how ham radio was important for emergencies and military phone
patches
and SkyWarn; two members of the commission commented they had used ham radio
from
Viet Nam, and one was aware of tornado spotters.
I also pointed out that the tower was "temporary" in that it was set in
place
by a crane (60 ton 160 foot boom), held in place by big bolts, and it could
just
as easily be removed.
All members initially voted in favor of quashing the complaint.
But then, the City of Dallas lawyer reported that the planning commission
could NOT
rule on property line issues, which could ONLY be resolved in State Court,
and she
directed the commission to support the complaint.
After the meeting I spoke with the attorney and asked her if she was
familiar
with PRB-1, and she responded that she was well aware of it, and that she
was reasonably certain that if I escalated to a State Court, with PRB-1,
I would win, "hands down" she said, and said that as a result of that
expectation, the City of Dallas would not pursue compliance if I let the
matter drop!
It's still in the same place (photo at www.mxg.com, lower left).
73
Barry, W5GN
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> Date: 11/03/2020 8:25 AM
> Subject: [wwdxc] Antenna Permit Query
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> Hello All,
>
>
> The vice chair of our local emergency communications group here on
Mercer Island is Pat Hackett, K7PTH. Pat works closely with our city police,
fire, and local government to ensure we have trained radio operators and
procedures that will effectively provide crucial communications in the event
of a major disaster. While our local communications are VHF/UHF we also
depend on HF for off-island and inter-state communications.
>
>
> Pat has recently upgraded to a General Class license and John Banbury
(AG7N) and myself have been helping her plan a low profile but effective HF
antenna installation. She has chosen a US Towers ALM31 crank up mast with a
2 element STEPPIR 6-40m yagi. The maximum height of the mast is 31 feet and
lowered it is less than 8 feet. The mast with payload is rated at 65 MPH
steady wind speed with an 85 MPH 3-second gust. Payload is rated at 8 sq-ft
and 50 lbs weight. The 2 ele STEPPIR she plans on using has a wind load
rating of 6 sq-ft and weighs in less than 50 lbs including the chosen
rotator.
>
>
> Pat applied for a Mercer Island building permit to erect the mast
providing all of the design calculations for the mast installations. The
city has come back stating that the mast is an "auxiliary structure" and as
such must have maximum height restriction of 17 feet and design wind speed
of 110 MPH. After supplying the city with a copy of PRB-1 they have relaxed
the height requirement but still require the 110 MPH design wind speed. The
lowered mast will be installed on the North side of Pat's house and will be
completely blocked from our SW storm wind direction. Furthermore, if the
mast were to fail for any reason, it would land well within the footprint of
her property boundaries. All utilities are buried so that also is no issue.
>
>
> So, we are in the process of gathering information to help push this
permit through the city's zoning department. It appears that the city would
like to approve the permit but they need some way of justifying relaxing the
requirements for the category classification of the mast. To that end, Pat
is in the process of reaching out to several lawyers with related
tower/antenna/zoning experience. In addition, I am reaching out to our WWDXC
members who have either obtained a permit or found that no permit was
required for their tower installation and to briefly supply the following
information:
>
>
> 1. Your callsign.
>
> 2. Your local zoning jurisdiction.
>
> 3. Permit required?
>
> 4. A brief description of your installation, i.e., height, antennas
>
> 5. How the tower/antenna was characterized, i.e., structure, antenna,
other?
>
> 6. Design wind speed requirement.
>
> 7. Any relaxation of requirements due to site specific considerations.
>
> 8. Any links to local zoning requirements related to antenna
permitting (if possible).
>
> 9. Any other helpful comments you might have.
>
>
> Thank you for reading this lengthy email and we appreciate any
information received.
>
>
> 73 de Mike
>
> K7PI
>
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