I agree with Mac. Fred is THE MAN for this kind of stuff.
Even here, where the local zoning regulations specifically ALLOW ham
radio towers, the amount of governmental nonsense and various other
places laying in wait to trip me up was amazing. Fortunately Fred was
able to guide me through it all, and help with the prep - we did not
encounter any delay as a result and got our building permit on the first
submission.
73/jeff/ac0c
alpha-charlie-zero-charlie
www.ac0c.com
On 11/5/20 9:48 PM, Mac wrote:
You can "play" with this situation or just cut to the chase...
call email get in touch with Fred Hopengarten k1vf arrl director, but
more ? author of several Zoning and city conflicts each published by
arrl if you have differences with arrl, get over it.. use Fred.. you
can fiddle fart around trying to save some money or use "the local
Guy" but that's all you're gonna do is fiddle around .. Fred has so
damn much experience and is the consummate professional at this, he
visits with the city attorney on this if the city atty has even half a
brain, fred's logic and experience walks the city smuck thru it all,
gives him/her good sound reasoning and support for them to advise the
building dept or zoning/and or council.. they can all take the advice
keep their integrity and walk away knowing they are meeting the
minimum intent of PRB-1 esp if it has been codified by the
Governor/State..
As i mentioned if your objective is to play with it and suffer the
angst frustration and all the other crap that goes along with it, do
it the path your own, you wanna win and be done with it, then call him...
mac/mc w5mc
On 11/3/2020 11:04 AM, jcowens1@comcast.net wrote:
---------- Original Message ----------
From: Mike K7PI <bipi@comcast.net>
To: wwdxc@groups.io
Date: 11/03/2020 8:25 AM
Subject: [wwdxc] Antenna Permit Query
Hello All,
The vice chair of our local emergency communications group here
on Mercer Island is Pat Hackett, K7PTH. Pat works closely with our
city police, fire, and local government to ensure we have trained
radio operators and procedures that will effectively provide crucial
communications in the event of a major disaster. While our local
communications are VHF/UHF we also depend on HF for off-island and
inter-state communications.
Pat has recently upgraded to a General Class license and John
Banbury (AG7N) and myself have been helping her plan a low profile
but effective HF antenna installation. She has chosen a US Towers
ALM31 crank up mast with a 2 element STEPPIR 6-40m yagi. The maximum
height of the mast is 31 feet and lowered it is less than 8 feet.
The mast with payload is rated at 65 MPH steady wind speed with an
85 MPH 3-second gust. Payload is rated at 8 sq-ft and 50 lbs weight.
The 2 ele STEPPIR she plans on using has a wind load rating of 6
sq-ft and weighs in less than 50 lbs including the chosen rotator.
Pat applied for a Mercer Island building permit to erect the
mast providing all of the design calculations for the mast
installations. The city has come back stating that the mast is an
"auxiliary structure" and as such must have maximum height
restriction of 17 feet and design wind speed of 110 MPH. After
supplying the city with a copy of PRB-1 they have relaxed the height
requirement but still require the 110 MPH design wind speed. The
lowered mast will be installed on the North side of Pat's house and
will be completely blocked from our SW storm wind direction.
Furthermore, if the mast were to fail for any reason, it would land
well within the footprint of her property boundaries. All utilities
are buried so that also is no issue.
So, we are in the process of gathering information to help push
this permit through the city's zoning department. It appears that
the city would like to approve the permit but they need some way of
justifying relaxing the requirements for the category classification
of the mast. To that end, Pat is in the process of reaching out to
several lawyers with related tower/antenna/zoning experience. In
addition, I am reaching out to our WWDXC members who have either
obtained a permit or found that no permit was required for their
tower installation and to briefly supply the following information:
1. Your callsign.
2. Your local zoning jurisdiction.
3. Permit required?
4. A brief description of your installation, i.e., height,
antennas
5. How the tower/antenna was characterized, i.e., structure,
antenna, other?
6. Design wind speed requirement.
7. Any relaxation of requirements due to site specific
considerations.
8. Any links to local zoning requirements related to antenna
permitting (if possible).
9. Any other helpful comments you might have.
Thank you for reading this lengthy email and we appreciate any
information received.
73 de Mike
K7PI
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