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Re: [TowerTalk] Radials vs. cows

To: towertalk@contesting.com, terry burge <ki7m@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Radials vs. cows
From: terry burge <ki7m@comcast.net>
Reply-to: terry burge <ki7m@comcast.net>
Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2019 17:20:23 -0700 (PDT)
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FWIW,
While I was building my 80 meter 4-square when I made the mistake of not making 
sure the neighbors goat could not reach it. Was a surprise to see my sloper 
moving around to the NE. When I got up there the goat (Elinor) was fit to be 
tied and wasn't happy to have me near her. I had to hold onto her horns while 
doing surgery to the sloper and dacron line. Luckily she did not cut herself 
but she wasn't too happy to have me in her pasture. If she had of been a cow I 
doubt I could have kept my neighbor from knowing about it. Cows are so much 
more uncooperative. 

So I suspect you ought to go with elevated radials and serious strong supports. 
You know the cattle will rub and scratch themselves on the supports. And if you 
have ever been in the midst of cattle when they decide to stampede (Exit stage 
right!) you won't want to be there again. If there is a bull around you best be 
friendly to him.

Terry
KI7M

> On July 30, 2019 at 1:57 PM Jim Brown <jim@audiosystemsgroup.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> You didn't say for what band. If for 160 or 80, I'd go with elevated 
> radials if practical. The good advice I've gotten (from N6BT)  is that 
> 18 ft is sort of a minimum height for 160, so half that for 80. Also, of 
> course, per N6LF, eight is better than four, because it maximizes the 
> uniformity of current distribution on the radials. My elevated radials 
> for 160 worked a lot better after I raised them from about 6 ft to about 
> 18 ft.
> 
> 73, Jim K9YC
> 
> On 7/30/2019 12:14 PM, Gary Johnson wrote:
> > I’m about to put in a radial field but the area is infested with Angus. 
> > Terrain is in its natural state, never graded, planted or anything, just 
> > coarse grass and weeds and pretty rocky and uneven. I was hoping to use 
> > lawn staples (lots of them) as they seem to have a very good grip in this 
> > soil.
> >
> > My concern is that the cows will snag the wires or pull them up while 
> > grazing. Then I’m stuck trying to shallow-bury everything... ugh.  Anyone 
> > have any experience or advice on cows vs. radials?
> >
> > Gary NA6O
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