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Re: [TowerTalk] Adjustments to Tower Base Pier J-Bolts

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Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Adjustments to Tower Base Pier J-Bolts
From: "Roger (K8RI) on TT" <K8RI-on-TowerTalk@tm.net>
Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2017 13:23:15 -0400
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If it were me, I'd make some flat plate adapters from 1/4, 3/8ths, or 1/2" plate for the hydraulic jacks to push against. 1/4" should be strong enough. Pushing against the threads could be risky. There are some mechanical engineers on here who might be able to give specifics, but heat will weaken the bolts substantially. Still, they "might" be strong enough for temporary, no wind use. (Engineer input?)

Be careful, pushing one bolt against the other. one may bend more than the other. Even with bolts that size there is some spring, so you "MIGHT" need to take them a bit extra.

In the future, people using long rods should consider two templates with one at the normal location and a second at the top of the bolts.

The "lots of grease and use the bottom nuts to force the template up" MIGHT work, but it might bugger up the threads.

73, Roger (K8RI)

On 7/22/2017 Saturday 11:49 AM, K7LXC--- via TowerTalk wrote:
  Got a nasty situation here that needs some brain power to  resolve.
Earlier
this year, I poured two base piers for a pair of Pirod  self-supporting
towers.  The 140 ft. tower base has the  problem.   Unfortunately, the base
J-bolts on two of the three  equilateral triangle points are bent inward,
toward the base center by  1/8".  That 1/8" may not seem like much, but it
is.  In fact, the  template used during the pour cannot be removed.  During
the pour, the  J-bolts were double-nutted, one on top and the other below
the
template.  Still, the force of the concrete pour managed to push out  the 6
ft. J-bolts.  As that was settling, I quickly moved the crew to  the other
tower as sunset was minutes away.  I did not go back and take  a level to
the
bolts, thinking the template would keep them perfectly  straight.

  Each 6 ft. bolt is exactly 1-7/8" in  diameter.  Each protrudes 12"
above the
concrete surface.  Moving  these huge bolts even 1/8" will take a Herculean
effort.  The template  holes are the exact same diameter and made that way
to
minimize shift of the  type that occurred anyway.  The tower base section
has
mounting holes  that are exactly 2.0" in diameter.  So, there's just a small
amount of  wiggle room.  If we can get the template off, then I know that
the
tower  base will absolutely go on without trouble.

  Some  options:
1) Use an oxy-acetylene torch and apply heat at the point where  the J-bolts
exit the base, then pound with a sledge hammer.  Trying it  now without heat
is futile; we've tried and the bolts are going  nowhere.  I have no idea
what
heating will do to the strength of the  J-bolt.

2) Use a telescoping hydraulic cylinder (a.k.a.   hydraulic ram jack) to
push
the two J-bolts against each other since they are  both leaning in by the
same amount.  What I don't know is how much  adjusting precision I'll have
when expanding the cylinder.  Do these  things move in very small
increments?
What cannot occur is the cylinder  "jerking" the bolts to anything beyond
1/8".  These cylinders are  capable of pushing 30,000 lbs. and are typically
used on large earth-moving  front loaders
Heating the bolts should be okay. I don't think it'll appreciably
cause a problem - but I'm not an engineer, just a tower  builder. Use a 6' or so
piece of pipe as a lever to help move them.
The other thing you could do would be to enlarge the leg holes to
accommodate the slight off-set. That'd be what I'd do.
Cheers & GL,
Steve     K7LXC
TOWER TECH -
Professional tower services for amateurs
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