The main reason(s) I retired to Arizona from Massachusetts,
besides the pols, no hurricanes, no blizzards, no tornadoes,
need I go on ....
73, Dick, W1KSZ
On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 8:23 PM, Mickey Baker <fishflorida@gmail.com> wrote:
> I redid my roof on my 58 year old home.
>
> Half shell Spanish tile is banned except for architecturally significant
> use... Many have been re-done with S tile, and the tiles are required to be
> adhesively attached to one another and the decking using an approved
> adhesive.
>
> The attachment decking to trusses/rafters, and strap attachments to walls
> are specified and inspected - usually by the city and then by an insurance
> company inspector.
>
> The cost for my 2000 sq ft home was a shade under $30k, all in, 2010.
>
> All to survive 130mph wind... And keep a little rain out.
>
> VE7RF wasn't too far off in his description of what things look like after
> a powerful hurricane. Wilma took a number of trees out on my street in
> 2005, and all my wire antennas. My 30' Rohn telescoping pole had guys break
> and was bent in an L shape. Blew windows out of many downtown
> businesses... Wore all the paint off one side of our Super Stationmaster
> repeater antenna at 400'...
>
> But cars generally don't flip from wind. Water maybe.
>
> Wilma recorded winds of 124mph about 5 miles from my house. The eye passed
> right over us.
>
> Lampposts, mailboxes, fences, outside AC units, signs,
> billboards, everything must be fastened down and certified for wind.
>
> This is not a conspiracy over ham radio towers.
>
>
> On Friday, January 16, 2015, Joe Subich, W4TV <lists@subich.com> wrote:
>
> >
> > ## Do they want your living room windows to survive a 139 mph wind
> >> too ??
> >>
> >
> > Yes. 140 MPH is "Miami-Dade" specifications for windows, doors, etc.
> > and is incorporated in the building codes of most of Florida these
> > days. Seminole Country, FL is no different. The insurance industry
> > has pushed that on a growing part of Florida following hurricane Andrew
> > and every other major hurricane for the last 30 years.
> >
> > Unfortunately, building regulations have stupidity built in ... like
> > tile roofs that act like an fission reaction (when one tile breaks it
> > creates shrapnel that breaks five or six more tiles resulting in the
> > loss of tiles in an entire neighborhood <G>). Applying the same 139
> > MPH standards to a 50 foot tower surrounded by trees and tow story
> > homes as applied to 1500' commercial towers is a bit absurd but that's
> > the rule statewide.
> >
> > 73,
> >
> > ... Joe, W4TV
> >
> >
> > On 2015-01-16 12:23 PM, Jim Thomson wrote:
> >
> >> Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2015 07:50:54 -0500
> >> From: bcarling@cfl.rr.com
> >> To: towertalk@contesting.com
> >> Subject: [TowerTalk] Tower installtion question
> >>
> >> Greetings,
> >>
> >> My local city Building Department wants me to prove that my proposed (24
> >> foot) tower
> >> installation with a 3 element beam for 17m & 12m can withstand 139 mph
> >> winds before they
> >> will issue a permit.
> >>
> >> Does this sound even remotely reasonable and compliant with PRB-1 ?
> >>
> >> Thanks for your views - Brian Carling AF4K
> >>
> >> ## Do they want your living room windows to survive a 139 mph wind too
> ??
> >> Every tree in the neighbourhood would come crashing down, and u would
> >> have zero
> >> shingles left on your roof. Your fence would be half a mile down the
> >> street, and your
> >> car would be flipped over in the driveway. Your roof would be ripped
> >> right off.
> >>
> >> ## What happens when trees topple your 24 foot tall tower ? Do they
> >> also want the
> >> 3 el yagi to be able to survive 139 mph wind too..or just the tower +
> >> mast ?
> >>
> >> ## I can see where they could then make a case for the yagis to handle
> >> 139 mph.
> >> If the 150-200 lb yagi came crashing down..onto philystran guy wires, it
> >> would slice em
> >> in half.... bringing the tower down. In effect, they are doing an end
> >> run... effectively
> >> banning all ham towers. Once they have effectively gotten rid of new
> >> ham installations,
> >> word will spread to other towns nearby..as Mayors like to brag about
> this
> >> stuff. The other’s
> >> will follow suit. “want to get rid of ham towers...just impose a MIN
> >> 139 mph rating on their
> >> tower, ants, mast,coax, guy wires, rotors, and anything else you can
> >> think of. “
> >> Bye-bye ham radio.
> >>
> >> Jim VE7RF
> >>
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> Mickey Baker, N4MB
> Fort Lauderdale, FL
> *“Tell me, and I will listen. Show me, and I will understand. Involve me,
> and I will learn.” *Teton Lakota, American Indian Saying.
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