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Re: [TowerTalk] Remote Ham Radio

To: "J.P." <jp@ezoom.net>
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Remote Ham Radio
From: "Djordan (personal)" <wa3gin@comcast.net>
Date: Sat, 3 Aug 2013 08:41:58 -0700
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Really, since when is the ARRL a standard bearer for best practices, haha. 
They'll go anywhere they can make a buck publishing...  A topical story now and 
then is good for business ;-) 

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On Aug 3, 2013, at 8:38 AM, "J.P." <jp@ezoom.net> wrote:

> Seems to me that if it was illegal, the ARRL wouldn't have published a review 
> or rather would have said so. But it's not so innovators behind the project 
> just laugh when you guys get unhinged about something as trivial. 
> 
> http://www.remotehamradio.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/RHR-ARRL-REVIEW.pdf
> 
> 73,
> 
> W2XX/7
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
> On Aug 3, 2013, at 8:14 AM, K8RI <K8RI-on-TowerTalk@tm.net> wrote:
> 
>> On 8/3/2013 9:17 AM, Mickey Baker wrote:
>>> Where did anyone every get the idea that there shouldn't be profit in ham
>>> radio?
>> 
>> We are not talking about profit in ham radio, we are talking about profit 
>> from using your station
>> We are talking about hams, or a group of hams making money from their 
>> licensed station, not from selling their station or equipment.
>> When you sell the station,and a ham puts it on the air it receives a license 
>> which is to a physical location.
>> 
>> If yo let someone use the station they have to stick to the limitations of 
>> their license and the station license. Used to be if station XX used station 
>> YY its sign was XX/YY
>> 
>> This has nothing to do with the equipment.  You cans sell or rent your 
>> equipment out, but the "station license is attached to that location.
>> 
>> You can build or buy a giant station and operate it remote and you can sell 
>> or rent the equipment, but not the station as I interpret the regs.  The 
>> "station" is licensed to an individual, or club at a specific location and 
>> we are forbidden to make money from messages/contacts made from that station 
>> regardless of who operates it.
>> 
>> It seems pretty straight forward and simple to me.
>> 
>> Although not Tower Talk specifically, I think this is a very important and 
>> relevant topic because the important part is the giant antenna farm 
>> (Usually) and it casts doubt on the very essence of contests and awards 
>> earned. Yes we all get together and operate "someone's" station for contests 
>> and it matters not if it's local or remote, but when we are paying to make 
>> transmissions on that station?  What then?
>> 
>> I really like the idea of renting a vacation home, in the mountains, on the 
>> beach, or on an island, where I can operate portable.  Does the legality 
>> change if it already has antennas? antennas and a contest style station?  
>> The latter just went out of my price range
>> 
>> Thing is, as I see it we are at best in a gray area, renting a home or cabin 
>> with a station and signing portable, or outside the regs when renting a 
>> complete licensed station.  What if "someone" puts up a monster station and 
>> never licenses it?  They are no longer renting out a licensed ham station 
>> for money.  Just that tiny detail would make it legal..."I think"
>> 
>> Anyone can build a ham station, complete with towers and antennas and they 
>> do not need a license to do so, but they and the station need a license to 
>> operate and any one could operate it "portable"?? That violates the spirit 
>> of the regs, but not the regs?
>> 
>> 73
>> 
>> Roger (K8RI)
>> 
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