I've been using the #10 here. http://www.cliffordvt.com/imsa.html the imsa
space 28-3 copper-clad steel. Still on the web page, but they don't list
the gauges on there.
David Robbins K1TTT
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web: http://www.k1ttt.net
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: jeremy-ca [mailto:km1h@jeremy.mv.com]
> Sent: Friday, August 17, 2007 22:22
> To: k1ttt@arrl.net; w1eqo@shaysnet.com; towertalk@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] [YCCC] newest bestest radial material ever!
>
> Clifford was also my supplier; as of a month ago they said no more #12.
> I'll check again Monday to be sure; I was using a 20 year old part #.
> Do you have the part # of what you bought?
>
> Carl
> KM1H
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "David Robbins K1TTT" <k1ttt@arrl.net>
> To: "'jeremy-ca'" <km1h@jeremy.mv.com>; <w1eqo@shaysnet.com>;
> <towertalk@contesting.com>
> Sent: Friday, August 17, 2007 6:04 PM
> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] [YCCC] newest bestest radial material ever!
>
>
> >I get the imsa spec insulated stuff from Clifford of Vt. They will cut
> to
> > order, but there is a minimum that isn't too bad if I remember right.
> >
> >
> > David Robbins K1TTT
> > e-mail: mailto:k1ttt@arrl.net
> > web: http://www.k1ttt.net
> > AR-Cluster node: 145.69MHz or telnet://dxc.k1ttt.net
> >
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: towertalk-bounces@contesting.com [mailto:towertalk-
> >> bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of jeremy-ca
> >> Sent: Friday, August 17, 2007 20:16
> >> To: w1eqo@shaysnet.com; towertalk@contesting.com
> >> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] [YCCC] newest bestest radial material ever!
> >>
> >> Where do you get your copperweld? I used to buy #12 rural phone wire in
> >> 1000' spools but its been discontinued wherever I check. Im going to
> >> need
> >> at least 10K feet. Ive found #14 at a few places.
> >> I also bought full spools of #14 stranded copperweld but that stuff
> >> turned
> >> to rust in a few years when used as antenna wire, never mind ground
> >> radials.
> >>
> >> Carl
> >> KM1H
> >>
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: <w1eqo@shaysnet.com>
> >> To: <w2lk@earthlink.net>; <yccc@yccc.org>; <towertalk@contesting.com>;
> >> <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> >> Sent: Friday, August 17, 2007 12:46 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] [YCCC] newest bestest radial material ever!
> >>
> >>
> >> Not exactly aluminum wire, but...
> >>
> >> A while back I had a conversation with Copperweld regarding their
> >> "aluminum-weld wire". It is a steel wire coated with an aluminum
> jacket.
> >>
> >> I was told that it would not last much longer than a "couple of years"
> in
> >> contact, or buried in the ground. The problem was not the aluminium,
> but
> >> the dissimilar junction that occurs everywhere the aluminum jacket gets
> >> nicked or broken thru. These will turn to dust in short order.
> >>
> >> For raised radials, no problem. Another reason to use raised radials.
> >>
> >> On the other hand, there is not a similar problem with copperweld. That
> >> product will last many years in the ground.
> >>
> >> Copperweld wire is cheap if ordered from the factory. The downside is
> the
> >> minimum order size...about 1000 lbs. Then there is trucking, and what
> to
> >> do
> >> with the spool once it arrives.
> >>
> >>
> >> Jim, W1EQO
> >> w1eqo@shaysnet.com
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Original Message:
> >> -----------------
> >> From: Les Kalmus w2lk@earthlink.net
> >> Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2007 12:24:07 -0400
> >> To: yccc@yccc.org, towertalk@contesting.com, CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> >> Subject: Re: [YCCC] [TowerTalk] newest bestest radial material ever!
> >>
> >>
> >> Any thoughts on how this stuff will survive on the ground?
> >>
> >> Les W2LK
> >>
> >> Richard (Rick) Karlquist wrote:
> >> > Last year I bought some aluminum wire in coils like you describe. I
> >> > think it was a company
> >> > in Ohio and may very well have been Malinco. Anyway, they had a 50
> lb
> >> > minimum and charged
> >> > something like $3 and change per pound. This is way cheaper than
> >> > McMaster. I wholeheartedly
> >> > agree that alloy 1100 is the hot setup. BTW, did you know it also is
> >> > the most corrosion resistant?
> >> > The stuff I got was annealed to practically wet noodle consistency :-
> ).
> >> > Wonderful to work with.
> >> >
> >> > Rick N6RK
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > K1TTT wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> I just found the newest bestest radial material I have ever used!
> And
> >> over
> >> >> the years I have used a lot of them. It ain't cheap, but at this
> >> >> point
> >> in
> >> >> the 80m 4-square project that doesn't much matter any more.
> >> >>
> >> >> It is Alloy 1100 Aluminum Wire .125" Diameter(just under 8ga), 12-lb
> >> Coil,
> >> >> 792' Coil, McMaster-Carr part number 8866k15. They sell it for $150
> >> and
> >> its
> >> >> enough for 12 radials for 80m. it comes with a tag from
> >> www.malinco.com,
> >> >> they don't seem to have an on-line order system so probably only
> deal
> >> in
> >> big
> >> >> quantities.
> >> >>
> >> >> If you want something a bit cheaper they have 2016' coils of .080
> >> (about
> >> >> 12ga) for $146.
> >> >>
> >> >> This stuff comes in a coil, which kind of worried me a bit until I
> cut
> >> off
> >> >> the tie wraps and it just sat there... no spring to it at all. It
> is
> >> easy
> >> >> to cut with small wire cutters, and easy to hand wrap around bolts
> and
> >> >> itself to make eyes. It can also be uncoiled and doesn't get
> kinked,
> >> you
> >> >> don't have to roll it out like Copperweld or other stiffer wires. I
> >> found
> >> >> it easiest to just stick the coil over one arm and uncoil it as I
> >> walked
> >> >> from vertical to vertical to connect them up.
> >> >>
> >> >> Btw, even with just the radials connected around the square this new
> >> >> 4-square is MUCH better than the old hanging around a tower. I can
> >> take
> >> an
> >> >> s9+ ve3 and make them disappear off the back.
> >> >>
> >> >> David Robbins K1TTT
> >> >> e-mail: mailto:k1ttt@arrl.net
> >> >> web: http://www.k1ttt.net
> >> >> AR-Cluster node: 145.69MHz or telnet://dxc.k1ttt.net
> >> >>
> >> >>
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