Clifford was also my supplier; as of a month ago they said no more #12.
I'll check again Monday to be sure; I was using a 20 year old part #.
Do you have the part # of what you bought?
Carl
KM1H
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Robbins K1TTT" <k1ttt@arrl.net>
To: "'jeremy-ca'" <km1h@jeremy.mv.com>; <w1eqo@shaysnet.com>;
<towertalk@contesting.com>
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2007 6:04 PM
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] [YCCC] newest bestest radial material ever!
>I get the imsa spec insulated stuff from Clifford of Vt. They will cut to
> order, but there is a minimum that isn't too bad if I remember right.
>
>
> David Robbins K1TTT
> e-mail: mailto:k1ttt@arrl.net
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>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: towertalk-bounces@contesting.com [mailto:towertalk-
>> bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of jeremy-ca
>> Sent: Friday, August 17, 2007 20:16
>> To: w1eqo@shaysnet.com; towertalk@contesting.com
>> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] [YCCC] newest bestest radial material ever!
>>
>> Where do you get your copperweld? I used to buy #12 rural phone wire in
>> 1000' spools but its been discontinued wherever I check. Im going to
>> need
>> at least 10K feet. Ive found #14 at a few places.
>> I also bought full spools of #14 stranded copperweld but that stuff
>> turned
>> to rust in a few years when used as antenna wire, never mind ground
>> radials.
>>
>> Carl
>> KM1H
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: <w1eqo@shaysnet.com>
>> To: <w2lk@earthlink.net>; <yccc@yccc.org>; <towertalk@contesting.com>;
>> <cq-contest@contesting.com>
>> Sent: Friday, August 17, 2007 12:46 PM
>> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] [YCCC] newest bestest radial material ever!
>>
>>
>> Not exactly aluminum wire, but...
>>
>> A while back I had a conversation with Copperweld regarding their
>> "aluminum-weld wire". It is a steel wire coated with an aluminum jacket.
>>
>> I was told that it would not last much longer than a "couple of years" in
>> contact, or buried in the ground. The problem was not the aluminium, but
>> the dissimilar junction that occurs everywhere the aluminum jacket gets
>> nicked or broken thru. These will turn to dust in short order.
>>
>> For raised radials, no problem. Another reason to use raised radials.
>>
>> On the other hand, there is not a similar problem with copperweld. That
>> product will last many years in the ground.
>>
>> Copperweld wire is cheap if ordered from the factory. The downside is the
>> minimum order size...about 1000 lbs. Then there is trucking, and what to
>> do
>> with the spool once it arrives.
>>
>>
>> Jim, W1EQO
>> w1eqo@shaysnet.com
>>
>>
>>
>> Original Message:
>> -----------------
>> From: Les Kalmus w2lk@earthlink.net
>> Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2007 12:24:07 -0400
>> To: yccc@yccc.org, towertalk@contesting.com, CQ-Contest@contesting.com
>> Subject: Re: [YCCC] [TowerTalk] newest bestest radial material ever!
>>
>>
>> Any thoughts on how this stuff will survive on the ground?
>>
>> Les W2LK
>>
>> Richard (Rick) Karlquist wrote:
>> > Last year I bought some aluminum wire in coils like you describe. I
>> > think it was a company
>> > in Ohio and may very well have been Malinco. Anyway, they had a 50 lb
>> > minimum and charged
>> > something like $3 and change per pound. This is way cheaper than
>> > McMaster. I wholeheartedly
>> > agree that alloy 1100 is the hot setup. BTW, did you know it also is
>> > the most corrosion resistant?
>> > The stuff I got was annealed to practically wet noodle consistency :-).
>> > Wonderful to work with.
>> >
>> > Rick N6RK
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > K1TTT wrote:
>> >
>> >> I just found the newest bestest radial material I have ever used! And
>> over
>> >> the years I have used a lot of them. It ain't cheap, but at this
>> >> point
>> in
>> >> the 80m 4-square project that doesn't much matter any more.
>> >>
>> >> It is Alloy 1100 Aluminum Wire .125" Diameter(just under 8ga), 12-lb
>> Coil,
>> >> 792' Coil, McMaster-Carr part number 8866k15. They sell it for $150
>> and
>> its
>> >> enough for 12 radials for 80m. it comes with a tag from
>> www.malinco.com,
>> >> they don't seem to have an on-line order system so probably only deal
>> in
>> big
>> >> quantities.
>> >>
>> >> If you want something a bit cheaper they have 2016' coils of .080
>> (about
>> >> 12ga) for $146.
>> >>
>> >> This stuff comes in a coil, which kind of worried me a bit until I cut
>> off
>> >> the tie wraps and it just sat there... no spring to it at all. It is
>> easy
>> >> to cut with small wire cutters, and easy to hand wrap around bolts and
>> >> itself to make eyes. It can also be uncoiled and doesn't get kinked,
>> you
>> >> don't have to roll it out like Copperweld or other stiffer wires. I
>> found
>> >> it easiest to just stick the coil over one arm and uncoil it as I
>> walked
>> >> from vertical to vertical to connect them up.
>> >>
>> >> Btw, even with just the radials connected around the square this new
>> >> 4-square is MUCH better than the old hanging around a tower. I can
>> take
>> an
>> >> s9+ ve3 and make them disappear off the back.
>> >>
>> >> David Robbins K1TTT
>> >> e-mail: mailto:k1ttt@arrl.net
>> >> web: http://www.k1ttt.net
>> >> AR-Cluster node: 145.69MHz or telnet://dxc.k1ttt.net
>> >>
>> >>
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