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Re: [TowerTalk] Vibrator for 2x2x4 hole?

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Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Vibrator for 2x2x4 hole?
From: "Hank Lonberg" <kr7x@comcast.net>
Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 18:32:18 -0700
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Bob and TT:

What you need to do is have the engineer specify and design
for less than 3000 psi. The special inspection section of
the CBC ( California Building Code) (essentially the 1997
UBC) doesn't require concrete cylinders (special inspection)
for less than 3000. This is what I specify for amateur
installations.

Regards
Lonberg Design Group, Ltd.
H.S. Lonberg, P.E., S.E.
President


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[mailto:towertalk-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Bob
Smith
Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2007 6:03 PM
To: towertalk@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Vibrator for 2x2x4 hole?

Most California Building codes for counties and cities
require that
any concrete pour 24" or more deeper must be vibrated.  All
the towers
that I've installed in California have had a building
inspector on 
site or I have
to show where I've rented a concrete vibrator.

also, some counties are now requiring an on-site slump test
for the pour taken
from the bottom of the hole, middle and the last pour on the
top if 
the concrete
is over normal 'driveway' specs.  This means that if the
building 
dept requires
this you have to have an outside 3rd party at the pour to
run the 
tests and provide
the results to the building dept ( on-site, 3day and 28day
slumps) 
which usually
an additional $500-$700 for the pour.

So, if the engineering plans have a spec concrete mentioned,
try to 
get the engineer
to remove this and just order the concrete with the spec.
Don't let 
it be noted
on the engineering plans or you will be paying for the
tests.


Bob Smith
NA6T

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Message: 9
Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 08:34:44 -0700
From: "Dana Roode" <dana.roode@gmail.com>
Subject: [TowerTalk] Vibrator for 2x2x4 hole?
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Folks - for a 2x2x4' Rohn 25 base concrete foundation, do I
need to
use a concrete vibrator during the concrete pour?

   dana



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