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Re: [TowerTalk] Re: 40m beam with wires dangling down

To: "david jordan" <wa3gin@erols.com>, <corneliuspaul@gmx.net>
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Re: 40m beam with wires dangling down
From: "kiski.net" <w3gh@kiski.net>
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 17:36:47 -0500
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this is the one I made several years ago designed by W9XR.
Search- W3GH noodle beam-  for construction fotos.
32 foot boom with fiberglass elements containing #14 ins wire.
vacuum relays in center of each element for cw/fone adjust.
w3gh Green Hornet

Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Re: 40m beam with wires dangling down


> yes, the wind effect is dampened considerably with the attachment of 2oz
> fishing weights to the end of each wire.
>
> Have Fun,
> dave
> wa3gin
>
> corneliuspaul@gmx.net wrote:
>
> >Its pretty close to what W9XR once described in CQ-Contest magazine
> >as the "spaghetti beam"
> >
> >I had a 3ele of that sort up for a few years, made of 14m fiberglas
elements,
> >(7m either side) with approx 3.5m wire dangling down either side.
> >Worked very well, only in windy situation the dangling wires start
swinging
> >and so does the SWR and (I presume) the pattern.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >At 10:15 05.11.2003 -0500, WA3GIN wrote:
> >
> >
> >>One could argue that bending the element 90 degrees does not have the
> >>effects you discibe as linear loading.
> >>
> >>Have you actually tried it?
> >>
> >>73,
> >>dave
> >>wa3gin
> >>
> >>Richard Karlquist wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>>Folding the element does little to reduce the performance. It looks
> >>>>hokie, but it's simple, light weight, more efficient than lumped
> >>>>inductance. The wires have to clear whats underneath but it's a
> >>>>
> >>>>wa3gin
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>No.  A properly designed lumped inductance is better than linear
> >>>loading.  That's why many 80 meter Yagi owners have upgraded to
> >>>W6ANR's aftermarket loading inductors, replacing the original linear
> >>>loading.  Linear loading is a marketing concept to make you think
> >>>you have eliminated the ohmic losses associated with loading
> >>>coils.  Instead, it *increases* the losses.
> >>>
> >>>Rick N6RK
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
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