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Re: Topband: Materials for Beverages?

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Subject: Re: Topband: Materials for Beverages?
From: fmoeves <fmoeves@twc.com>
Date: Wed, 04 Aug 2021 09:23:27 -0400
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I use the black from Tractor Supply. They seem to work well but fade from uv I 
guess. How would you go about testing them for conductivity? Thanks Fred KB4QZH 
-------- Original message --------From: Kenneth Grimm <grimm@sbc.edu> Date: 
8/4/21  8:59 AM  (GMT-05:00) To: Grant Saviers <grants2@pacbell.net> Cc: 
topband <topband@contesting.com> Subject: Re: Topband: Materials for Beverages? 
I've been using black and yellow screw in insulators to support beveragewires 
for years with no problems....well, with the insulators thatis...plenty of 
problems with falling trees, etc.73,Ken - K4XLOn Tue, Aug 3, 2021 at 6:46 PM 
Grant Saviers <grants2@pacbell.net> wrote:> N7QT & I verified that black ring 
screw-in insulators are too conductive> for one or two transmit radials on 
160m.  Lot's of arcs and smoke.  I> now use the yellow 4" long barb wire 
insulators screwed to trees to> support 160m elevated Tx radials.>> Black may 
not be a problem with Beverage field strengths.>> Grant KZ1W>> On 8/3/2021 
11:16, Tim Duffy wrote:> > Two things concern me about black. UV and possible 
carbon used to color> > black - which may be conductive at RF frequencies> >> > 
73> > Tim K3LR> >> > -----Original Message-----> > From: Topband 
[mailto:topband-bounces+k3lr=k3lr.com@contesting.com] On> > Behalf Of Drew 
Vonada-Smith> > Sent: Tuesday, August 3, 2021 1:02 PM> > To: 
topband@contesting.com> > Subject: Topband: Materials for Beverages?> >> > 
Gene,> >> > I have used those and others in that series with only fair 
results.> They do> > break more often than I'd like.  I replace about 10% of 
them per year,> which> > is acceptable given that they are cheap. But I have 
not found anything> > better.> >> > FYI - I'd be happy to use black ones, but 
have never seen them.  My local> > farm store carries the exact same bright 
yellow ones you listed.  A link> to> > a "preferred type" would be welcome.  
I'm a bit of a birder and have not> > heard of any hummingbird death issues.  
References?> >> > 73,> > Drew K3PA> >> > ________________________________> >> 
>> > Toda> > Date: Mon, 2 Aug 2021 16:35:47 -0400> > From: Gene Smar 
<ersmar@verizon.net>> > To: topband@contesting.com> > Subject: Topband: Fwd: 
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more> > Message-ID: <78ef5d0e-0d78-c118-0819-e5ccc2dd72f3@verizon.net>> > 
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