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Re: Topband: JA's came in droves today on 160

To: Steve Sacco NN4X <nn4x@embarqmail.com>, "topband@contesting.com" <topband@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: Topband: JA's came in droves today on 160
From: Ralph Bellas <k9zo@hotmail.com>
Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2019 03:04:43 +0000
List-post: <mailto:topband@contesting.com>
Different entirely.  What is missing is the interaction between people.  I 
literally can call a station and go to the bathroom, returning to see if the 
computer worked him and I can log it. The technology is cool to hear weak 
signals, but it is not interactive yet.



SSB and AM are technologies, but used the same back and forth human 
communication.





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From: Topband <topband-bounces@contesting.com> on behalf of Steve Sacco NN4X 
<nn4x@embarqmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2019 8:56:10 PM
To: topband@contesting.com
Subject: Re: Topband: JA's came in droves today on 160

Ed -

I wasn't around back then, but I'd imagine the exact same thing was said
when CW began to replace spark gap, and when SSB began to supplant AM.

Just something to think about.

73,

Steve

NN4X

>     1. Re: JA's came in droves today on 160 (Edward Sawyer)
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> Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2019 13:27:16 -0500
> From: "Edward Sawyer" <sawyered@earthlink.net>
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> Such is the new trend.  No offense to KV4FZ whatsoever but if you provide
> the easy path.most will take it.  The only way to affect the "easy way out"
> is to not provide it.
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> I remember year's ago doing CQ WW CW ABLP as C6ARS in 2001.  I ended the
> contest on 15M running a couple of hundred JAs. I thought, this is amazing
> because I am just as loud from W1 and I couldn't imagine having so many JA
> stations call.  Clearly they are much more DXers than full contesters - most
> of them.  Still feel that way today.  I have heard piles of JAs calling
> right before a contest only to dry up in the contest.
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> Its fascinating that the above has now shifted to FT8 vs the more
> traditional modes in just DXing.  Herb, it would be a very interesting
> experiment to shift to CW mid pile-up and see if the group stays with you to
> catch the DX opening or does it dwindle to nothing.  I am guessing it goes
> to nothing despite the opening.  But would love to hear.
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> FT8 is changing the "easiness factor" in DXing.  And like technology
> assisted driving, once that genie is out of the bottle it ain't never goin
> back.  Just try and find an actual stick shift in a new car - almost
> impossible.  Why?  It doesn't mesh with the computer driving the car.
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> 73
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> Ed  N1UR
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