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Re: Topband: Use shunt fed tower

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Subject: Re: Topband: Use shunt fed tower
From: kolson@rcn.com
Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2018 10:11:06 -0400 (EDT)
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Well, my system here at K3OX is a "T" with a 40 ft vertical section and a 90 ft 
flat top. It sort of worked OK when I first put it up, but it works much more 
OK after about 32 random (to fit my 4 0 x 110 lot) radials were installed. It 
would work better yet if I had more and longer radials, and mo' better than 
that  if the vertical section was 130 ft! 

So saying an antenna "works" is a relative thing. But the moral is, you do what 
you can. T o paraphrase Clint Eastwood, "A man's gotta know his antenna 
limitations". 

73 Kevin K3OX 


----- Original Message -----

From: "Peter Voelpel" <dj7ww@t-online.de> 
To: topband@contesting.com 
Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2018 9:44:46 AM 
Subject: Re: Topband: Use shunt fed tower 

It can work and it does. 

I used a shunt fed tower without radials for a couple of years on the former 
qth just with the tower grounding. 
Now I feed the tower directly and against a single sloping radial, it works 
great and is also a better receiving antenna then my relatively short 
beverages. 

73 
Peter, DJ7WW 

-----Original Message----- 
From: Topband [mailto:topband-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of John 
Harden, D.M.D. 
Sent: Sonntag, 16. September 2018 02:43 
To: daraymond@iowatelecom.net 
Cc: topband@contesting.com; cfytech24x7 
Subject: Re: Topband: Use shunt fed tower 

A shunt fed tower requires radials period. It cannot work without them! 

73, 

John, W4NU 

Sent from my iPhone 

> On Sep 15, 2018, at 1:55 PM, <daraymond@iowatelecom.net> 
<daraymond@iowatelecom.net> wrote: 
> 
> It makes no difference how the tower is fed, a vertical antenna must have 
radials of some kind to be effective.      73. . .Dave, W0FLS 
> 
> -----Original Message----- From: cfytech24x7 
> Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2018 11:29 AM 
> To: topband@contesting.com 
> Subject: Topband: Use shunt fed tower 
> 
> A shunt fed tower is a vertical antenna so it offers lowest take off 
angle. Shunt feeding avoids need for radial field.  Any horizontal wire 
antenna is going to put most of your radiated energy out at high angles, 
unless you can get it at least a half wavelength of height.  A loop may be a 
quieter antenna for RX but your existing inverted Vs are no doubt better for 
TX. 
> There is some art and experimentation involved in the matching but the 
results will be worth the effort.  I  would start with your highest antenna 
for top band, next highes for 80m. Note that your yagis will act nicely as 
capacitive hats to add to effective tower hight. 
> Gl es 73, ab1vl chuck 
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