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Re: Topband: Low band antenna project questions

To: NC3Z Gary <nc3z@outlook.com>, Topband <topband@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: Topband: Low band antenna project questions
From: Charles Moizeau <w2sh@msn.com>
Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2016 12:32:34 -0500
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Gary,

Given the 50' maximum height of a presumably level catenary line supported at 
its ends, there are two things you can do to significantly improve the 
performance of the 50' vertical wire hanging below.

1.  Obtain a stout piece of bamboo.  Try to make at least a 10' long pole, and 
this may require using two bamboo pieces butted together.   Make two rope 
bridles.  Attach the ends of both to opposite ends of the bamboo pole.  Make 
sure that the length of each bridle is such that when both are pulled taut from 
each bridle's center, a square pattern is formed.  Using a goodly quantity of 
light-weight wire (#26 stranded copper that has a modest coating of pvc 
insulation is a suggestion), make yourself a reasonably dense top-hat by 
running lengths of the chosen wire out in rays, with each ray extending to the 
perimeter of the rope bordered square that you've formed.  Then run the same 
gauge of wire around the square perimeter of the rope square.  Using lead-free 
solder (recommended is 96% Sn, 4% Ag), solder all the rays together at their 
center, together with the top end of your vertical antenna wire, and each 
junction of the ray ends to the perimeter wire.  Use GE's pure silicone
  black caulk, daubing some on every soldered joint.  All this work can be 
easily done at ground level, after having first driven in a couple of ground 
stakes at the center of each rope bridle to keep the bridles taut in their 
intended square configuration.  Break your catenary line at the point where you 
want your vertical wire to hang.  Attach each inner end of the catenary line to 
the center of each bridle rope.  Elevate!

2.  Use a much shorter bamboo pole and appropriately shorter rope bridles.  
Attach a self-supporting length of light-weight aluminum tubing to the center 
of the pole and connect that to the top of your vertical antenna wire.  Fasten 
the bridles to the split catenary rope as in no. 1.

My preference is for no. 1.  This because the taller a vertical antenna, the 
more it needs longer radials to harvest radiation splashed off the ground for 
recycling back to the antenna's feedpoint.  Because you are limited in the 
length of your radials, a shorter capacitance top-loaded vertical will play 
better than a >50' tall vertical.

Have a look in the QST archives for the picture of Jerry Sevick's eight-foot 
tall 40-meter vertical wearing a very large top hat.

73,

Charles, W2SH     

> From: nc3z@outlook.com
> To: topband@contesting.com
> Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2016 15:28:08 +0000
> Subject: Re: Topband: Low band antenna project questions
> 
> That is the highest I can get support for. I am in far eastern NC and 
> right on the sound where we get hurricanes and nor'easters so I am not 
> putting up the towers I had at the old QTH.
> 
> 
> Gary Mitchelson
> NC3Z/4 Pamlico County, NC FM15
> 
> On 07-Mar-16 09:49, Robert Harmon wrote:
> > Gary,
> > Are you restricted to 50 feet high max ?
> >
> > Bob
> > K6UJ
> >
> > On 3/7/16 5:50 AM, NC3Z Gary wrote:
> >> OK, still working on my permanent low band antenna and what I can fit
> >> for an effective antenna. The space I have is a recently cleared forest
> >> area. I had originally considered a full size loop but the best I could
> >> do is 50' high, although that would be a bit higher than my temporary
> >> dipole it is not much in the scheme of things. And I keep getting talked
> >> out of it.
> >>
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