Thanks all for the help, will upgrade software and try to use it as TDR
73,
Jorge
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> El 23 nov. 2015, a las 23:00, Bill Hider <n3rr@erols.com> escribió:
>
> Jorge,
>
> I have used my AIM4170 many times as a TDR. Your 3 year old AIM_853.exe
> should work, but it is free & easy go upgrade to the latest (October 26,
> 2015) software revision, AIM_910B.
>
> Download AIM_910B here:
>
> WWW.w5big.com/prog_update.htm
>
> Bill N3RR
>
>> On Nov 23, 2015 8:03 PM, donovanf@starpower.net wrote:
>>
>> Hi Jorge,
>>
>> The AIM4170 has TDR capabilities. I don't own an AIM470, but
>> surely someone on the Topband reflector can help you use it
>> as a TDR.
>>
>> 73
>> Frank
>> W3LPL
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>
>> From: "Jorge Diez - CX6VM" <cx6vm.jorge@gmail.com>
>> To: donovanf@starpower.net
>> Sent: Monday, November 23, 2015 11:56:32 PM
>> Subject: RE: Topband: fixing beverage
>>
>> Hi Frank
>>
>> I google and the first option was Campbellsci.es
>>
>> In 5 minutes the CX representative emailed me and told me that is a very
>> very expensive toy for my use :-)
>>
>> I have the AIM4170, will do this job? I use the software AIM_852.exe I need
>> another software or this is OK?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Jorge
>>
>> -----Mensaje original-----
>> De: Topband [mailto:topband-bounces@contesting.com] En nombre de
>> donovanf@starpower.net
>> Enviado el: lunes, 23 de noviembre de 2015 06:51 p.m.
>> Para: topband@contesting.com
>> CC: dl8yhrfrank@aol.com
>> Asunto: Re: Topband: fixing beverage
>>
>> Hi Frank,
>>
>> My TDR is nearly fifty years old, but still it works great.
>>
>> Array Solutions sells more modern multi-functions devices that are perform
>> very well as a TDR. Here's an example display from Array Solutions' web
>> site:
>>
>> https://www.arraysolutions.com/images/AIMuhf-TDR-fig1.png
>>
>> The display for a Beverage looks very similar, you can see every component
>> from the shack to the termination resistor.
>>
>> 73
>> Frank
>> W3LPL
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>
>> From: dl8yhrfrank@aol.com
>> To: donovanf@starpower.net
>> Sent: Monday, November 23, 2015 9:20:55 PM
>> Subject: Re: Topband: fixing beverage
>>
>> where can i get such toy?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Urspr ngliche Mitteilung-----
>> Von: donovanf <donovanf@starpower.net>
>> An: TopBand List <topband@contesting.com>
>> Cc: Jorge Diez - CX6VM <cx6vm.jorge@gmail.com>
>> Verschickt: Mo, 23 Nov 2015 9:39 pm
>> Betreff: Re: Topband: fixing beverage
>>
>>
>>
>> A Time Domain Reflectometer is one of the best tools to verify
>> the proper performance and isolate faults of a Beverage and many
>> other types of antennas.
>>
>> In the case of a Beverage, the TDR allows you to see every
>> component of the antenna system from the ham shack all the way
>> to the termination resistor. If anything fails you can almost
>> always walk directly to it with the needed replacement parts and
>> tools in hand.
>>
>> 73
>> Frank
>> W3LPL
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>
>> From: "Jorge Diez - CX6VM" < cx6vm.jorge@gmail.com >
>> To: "TopBand List" < topband@contesting.com >
>> Sent: Monday, November 23, 2015 8:29:15 PM
>> Subject: Re: Topband: fixing beverage
>>
>> Thanks all you guys for the help
>>
>> Will do this tests and see what is wrong
>>
>> 73,
>> Jorge
>> CX6VM/CW5W
>>
>> -----Mensaje original-----
>> De: Tom W8JI [ mailto:w8ji@w8ji.com ]
>> Enviado el: lunes, 23 de noviembre de 2015 02:35 p.m.
>> Para: Jorge Diez - CX6VM; 'TopBand List'
>> Asunto: Re: Topband: fixing beverage
>>
>>>
>>> I notice that my USA beverage is lower in 3-4 S units that some weeks ago.
>>
>> 5-20 dB. Depending on receiver and where it is at on the S meter.
>>
>> That has to be a poor connection, open, or short between the receiver and
>> the
>> Beverage transformer end of the Beverage. It cannot be at the termination
>> end.
>>
>>> At simple view all seems to be OK. I think the coax is not the
>>> problem, because if I have a problem in the coax, will be completely deaf,
>> right?
>>
>> No. Coax can do this. It happens all the time. Especially at connectors.
>>
>>>
>>> So this can be the cause of a problem in the end resistor or maybe in
>>> the transformer? I use in this beverage a WX0B beverage boxes
>>
>> It can not be at the end resistor termination.
>>
>> The problem is if you disturb something it will often start working. You
>> need to
>> carefully check one thing at a time. Many times, if not most times, this is
>> corrosion or tarnish on the center pin of the coax. Sometimes it is a broken
>> wire, or a bad part from lightning or water.
>>
>> The best way to test it is with an SWR meter and do a frequency sweep from
>> the
>> house, before you touch the antenna or any outside connections. The
>> frequency of
>> either adjacent major dips in SWR or impedance will allow you to calculate
>> exactly where the problem is. The MFJ analyzer will do this within a few
>> feet,
>> even on a 1000 foot cable, by using distance to fault.
>>
>> 73 Tom
>>
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