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Re: Topband: SDR Mythbusters - ADC Overload myths debunked...

Subject: Re: Topband: SDR Mythbusters - ADC Overload myths debunked...
From: "Tom W8JI" <w8ji@w8ji.com>
Reply-to: Tom W8JI <w8ji@w8ji.com>
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2015 09:55:01 -0400
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The opinion expressed in the Flexradio editorial about noise blankers being
completely harmless, is not an opinion, it is even false.


It really isn't an accurate or factual technical article. It is a sales brochure meant to enforce the love each of us have for a particular system, in this case the magic of SDR. You might as well read an MFJ advertisement for technical accuracy, watch a year old VW diesel commercial, or listen to a politician of any party telling us how they will fix everything. It is all sales and stoking people's emotions or existing opinions, with just enough truth woven in to avoid prison.

Oddly, the K3 Elecraft is largely SDR. It is an SDR receiver with a standard analog front end as a frequency converter with roofing filter. IMO, the worse part of the K3 is the SDR part.

Try this test. Poll users who work very weak CW signals routinely in all sorts of station environments, just the general population of weak signal CW DXers. Ask them if analog detection is better for pulling a weak signal below noise floor out of noise, or if a DSP detection system is better. The results are always that DSP detection systems are viewed unfavorably over good analog systems by significant number of people.

The limits of this case are digging weak signals, that are at or below noise, out of the noise.

There is always a certain loss of dynamics to me, when I listen to any SDR. It has been this way for me with any SDR or DSP detection radio. Something my ear depends on to know the difference between a signal below noise and just noise without signal is lost in every single DSP detection system I listen to. It melts the signal into the noise with a distortion.

We did a blind A-B test (I have audio lines that bring every receiver to a jack ). It is easy to tune two receivers to the same signal, and have someone else switch the lines.

People who cannot copy below noise signals seem to not notice this effect.

73 Tom
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