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Re: Topband: CQWW160 Remote receiver rule

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Subject: Re: Topband: CQWW160 Remote receiver rule
From: "N5PA" <n5pa@n5pa.com>
Reply-to: n5pa@n5pa.com
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2015 09:47:21 -0600
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Joel:

I agree with you!  It is what it is and all the moaning and complaining will
not change the rules.  I am antenna restricted where I live to somewhat and
I have a much better station at my farm, 98 miles west of me.  But when I
want to operate, I get in my truck and drive over there.  So that is my
operating position, no big deal to me.  I do not have remote capabilities
yet, but if I ever do, it is what it is and I play by the rules.  I am in
the same state, but a different grid square at my farm.  I am glad to see
them change the rules on the VHF+ contests because I am in a real desert
when it comes to VHF+ Weak Signal Operators.  You are probably one of the
closer VHF+ operators to me and you are 263 miles away from me.  So it is
good to be able to use the internet for assistance so maybe someone will
turn their antennas my way.  Like I said, the rules are the rules and we
have to live by them.  But I know that some people can live with themselves
even if they do not play by the rules.  But I am not one of those guys!

73,
Alan Clark, N5PA

-----Original Message-----
From: Topband [mailto:topband-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Joel
Harrison
Sent: Friday, January 30, 2015 9:29 AM
To: TopBand List
Subject: Re: Topband: CQWW160 Remote receiver rule

This is starting to become very amusing to me.

All the Contest folks are telling the DX'er they are over reacting and
becoming emotional on remote operation, and they should just calm down and
enjoy radio....."Live and Let Live, eat, drink and be merry for tomorrow you
may die"

But those same folks, when it comes to contesting, are saying "HELL NOT WE
WON'T GO!!"

So now what's the difference??? NOTHING!!!  Just don't pee in my swimming
pool and I'm happy.

Interesting.....or as Mr. Spock would say "FASCINATING!"

73 Joel W5ZN


> DXCC is a joke for many.  At one time it was fun to chase DX, listen 
> for
hours to work a new one and perhaps compare with locals in a friendly
competition.  With Internet spotting and the ability to operate from
anywhere in the country using a remote site, it has long since become
meaningless on 160m.  I would have appreciated the dedication if K7TJR, for
example, worked the EP6T station from his own station in Oregon and thought
"so what" if I heard that WB6XXX had worked him using RHR's W8JI site.
> However, I disagree regarding contests.  To say that you should not
worry
> about someone making 50 more contacts in a contest is to say that the
competition (the very essence of a contest) is unimportant and that it is
> also a joke.
> Regarding working the band out...that is true for USA contacts.  It's
absolutely not true for working the important stuff (Europe) during the
available openings.
> It will be soon enough that we will be having the conversation about 
> not
only remote operation but robotic QSO making software.  In the meantime, if
the only way someone can get on at all (in a rest home, for example) is
> to operate a remote site, I'm all for it.  The impact on contest 
> results
would be minimal, if there even is an impact.
> At the point in time when the only way one could possibly compete 
> would
be
> to have multiple sites and an Internet connection, the thrill is gone
for
> me.
> Is is really and truly a RADIO CONTEST if you cannot possibly make a
"radio" QSO without using the Internet?  I know some people who I actually
> think believe what we are doing in these reflectors is radio...  (I
already know all the justifications comparing the WWW communications system
to a six foot headphone cable located at your own station.). What do you
think?
> Enjoy it while you can.
> 73...Stan, K5GO
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