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Re: Topband: E51M

To: <herbs@vitelcom.net>, "Clive GM3POI" <gm3poi2@btinternet.com>
Subject: Re: Topband: E51M
From: "Hardy Landskov" <n7rt@cox.net>
Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2012 17:59:46 -0700
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Let me chime in also when West African DXPD's get on at 2200Z, work til 
2400Z and then disappear not realizing that the West Coast of  NA still has 
2 to 3 hours of daylight left. Can't they look at a Geoclock or something 
before they leave for the DXPD and plan accordingly??? This is not Rocket 
Science!!!
I hear everyone's frustration, believe me.
N7RT


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Herb Schoenbohm" <herbs@vitelcom.net>
To: "Clive GM3POI" <gm3poi2@btinternet.com>
Cc: <topband@contesting.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2012 4:00 PM
Subject: Re: Topband: E51M


> No problem with that Clive....and I sure can wait till 0600.
> Unfortunately some EU operator DXpeditions in the Pacific do exactly
> that with EU only until they see the grey line hits the continent, go
> QRT, and then come back at 11:00 after my SR to work the NA big guns.
> This is exactly what happens so often and it is very frustrating.  Most
> apparently don't realize that much of the Eastern Caribbean is East of
> 64 degrees WL and much closer to the Equator at 17.7 NL.  This practice
> is a real bummer for me.
>
>
> Herb. KV4FZ
>
> On 4/4/2012 4:45 PM, Clive GM3POI wrote:
>> Herb, Looking from an EU point of view. You will realise that the whole 
>> of
>> EU will lose propagation  at about 06z. You then have about six hours 
>> before
>> sunrise , surely enough time.
>> Our 160m available time will be from there SS  at 0445z until our
>> Sunrise 0530z that is a total of 45 minutes against your likely six 
>> hours. I
>> think it highly reasonable IF they were QRV,  to say EU only.
>> 73 Clive GM3POI
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: topband-bounces@contesting.com 
>> [mailto:topband-bounces@contesting.com]
>> On Behalf Of Herb Schoenbohm
>> Sent: 04 April 2012 19:06
>> To: topband@contesting.com
>> Subject: Re: Topband: E51M
>>
>> Jim,
>>
>> E51M operation has super signals on all high bands but their interest
>> does not seem to be in 160 at all.  I have asked them countless times
>> and was told yesterday that there is some difficulty in getting up an
>> antenna.. The SSB tent said they a have even sent over two of their crew
>> to help out.  The SSB crew is very friendly and  easy to work.  On CW
>> however this morning they were on 14 CW and spent 6 hours sending E51M
>> up EU and the same was being sent on 18 Mhz as well for about the same
>> amount of time.  It is very frustrating when a rare DXpedition  is in
>> here 599 plus for hours and refuses to work the America's.  I just hope
>> if they ever get on the lower bands that NA will even have a chance.
>>
>> My question is why should any portion of the world be locked out for
>> long periods of time from calling for a new country..  Sure I have faced
>> time and time again trying in vain to break a EU wall on 160.  This was
>> recently the case with 3C0E working Eu's for hours on TB and not a
>> chance to NA at all.  So my suggestion is to have at least a few minutes
>> to QSX for NA under these circumstances instead of just raising a total
>> blockade lasting over the whole path opening. And in the case where a
>> DX-pedition ops  want to disfavor some geographic location in deference
>> to his buddies back in Europe, why not at least allow for a short open
>> window from time to time?
>>
>> Herb Schoenbohm, KV4FZ
>>
>>
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>> On 4/4/2012 12:40 PM, Jim WA9YSD wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Check out E51M on the call search for E51M updates are posted there.
>>>
>>> Latest post:
>>> 4.02.12  2257 Z
>>> I spoke to the Team Leader about 30 minutes ago. Because the sat. phone 
>>> is
>> still too noisy, we spoke on 12 meters. Here are the two matters he 
>> related
>> to me;  The Six meter station is available and ready to make QSOs.  If
>> anyone is hearing them on six, or wants to give it a try, call one of the
>> stations operating on the low band frequencies and ask for some one to go 
>> to
>> the six meter station. The antenna for 160 meters is still being worked 
>> on.
>> Stay tuned for that band to be QRV
>>> Good Evening ,
>>> Leon, (K2EWB)
>>>
>>> Stay on course, fight a good fight, and keep the faith. Jim K9TF/WA9YSD
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