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Re: [TenTec] OT: 7300 buy back program

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Subject: Re: [TenTec] OT: 7300 buy back program
From: Gary J FollettDukes HiFi <dukeshifi@comcast.net>
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Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2016 21:50:23 -0500
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Paragon ? Maybe… Trade it for an Omni 6+ or an Orion…

Eagle is a great choice but box is too small for my tastes.

Gary



> On Aug 16, 2016, at 9:32 PM, Bwana Bob <wb2vuf@verizon.net> wrote:
> 
> Well, isn't there a mid-grade radio between "entry level" and "contest 
> grade"?  I consider entry level to be the Alinco or the ICOM IC-718, both 
> under $1000.  For $1500, I wouldn't expect a super contest radio, but I would 
> expect something better than entry level.  (Ah, when I was a boy, entry level 
> was a used Hammarlund receiver and a Heathkit DX-60A).
> 
> -Bob WB2VUF
> 
> 
> On 8/15/2016 2:28 PM, rick@dj0ip.de wrote:
>> In plain English Paul, it overloads MUCH too easily.
>> 
>> To prevent that, you have to use a lot of attenuation; here in Europe even
>> more than the radio has built in.
>> Then it does not overload but you can no longer hear the really weak
>> stations.
>> 
>> In most day to day operation, this is not a problem.
>> In contests it is.  In its present state, it is not a serious contest radio.
>> 
>> Icom has replied to this point in writing that it is an entry level radio,
>> not a high end radio.
>> 
>> On the bright side, contrary to many of the other Japanese radios shipping
>> today (i.e. 7600 and ALL Yasues), it has a clean transmitter.
>> 
>> Icom could fix this radio and potentially make it a great entry level radio
>> but they will probably leave it like that so that users wanting more must
>> pay more for the next higher radio.  "That" was indeed my opinion; the bit
>> on performance is fact.
>> 
>> 73 - Rick, DJ0IP
>> (Nr. Frankfurt, Germany)
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: TenTec [mailto:tentec-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of
>> kd3jf.paulgates@gmail.com
>> Sent: Monday, August 15, 2016 7:47 PM
>> To: k9yc@arrl.net; Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment
>> Subject: Re: [TenTec] OT: 7300 buy back program
>> 
>> Exactly in plain English what is wrong with the 7300 Paul kw4bd Sent from my
>> iPhone
>> 
>>> On Aug 15, 2016, at 12:11 PM, Jim Brown <k9yc@audiosystemsgroup.com>
>> wrote:
>>> Barry,
>>> 
>>> I don't disagree that all mfrs are looking at direct sampling RX, and I
>> agree that they should be. I'd call that wise investment in R&D. My
>> assessment of the 7300 is that it's a budget level product that was
>> oversold.
>>> The fundamental issue right now with that technology is dynamic range with
>> the available chips, which are in the right price range because of the
>> volume built for them by cell phones. Guys are making Flex 6700s work in
>> contest superstations because the serious bandpass filtering they would need
>> with any radio acts as an RX preselector, limiting the bandwidth of the
>> spectrum that can overload the A/D. But that won't help in EU or AS, where
>> broadcasters are in the passband of any practical filter on 40M, and there
>> are some high power broadcasters close enough to  20M to make it a problem
>> there too.
>>> I think you've been happy with your ANAN in that regard. Are you doing
>> anything special to address the dynamic range issue?
>>> 73, Jim K9YC
>>> 
>>>> On Mon,8/15/2016 5:22 AM, Barry N1EU wrote:
>>>> I think dealers and manufacturers have stock piles of ALL superhets,
>>>> not just the 7600.  I think Rick is on the mark that the DEALER is
>>>> simply motivated to move excess 7600 inventory.
>>>> 
>>>> What Rick didn't mention is that there's a fresh rumor making the
>>>> rounds that Icom is about to announce a direct sampling SDR
>>>> replacement for the 7600.  That's extra motivation to move 7600
>> inventory.
>>>> The 7300 has changed the game, period.  Icom is sitting pretty.
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