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Barry N1EU
On Wed, Aug 17, 2016 at 8:48 AM, Gary J FollettDukes HiFi <
dukeshifi@comcast.net> wrote:
> Sorry, one of the formatting problems with using an iPad instead of a MAC
> or PC.
>
> Gary
>
>
>
> > On Aug 17, 2016, at 1:03 AM, rick@dj0ip.de <Rick@DJ0IP.de> wrote:
> >
> > YES! Too bad the EAGLE isn't twice as big with a much larger screen and
> proper S-Meter.
> >
> > In all of this technical discussion, we seem to forget "THE" single most
> important point for selecting a radio . . . according to Rob Sherwood. And
> it's not Dynamic Range 3!
> >
> > According to Rob, the single most important criteria is, "we have to
> enjoy operating the radio."
> > I have used a lot of really good radios that I simply did not like.
> > Ergonomics is a big part of it.
> >
> > IMO, this is one of the reasons so many people are reluctant to move on
> to newer technology.
> >
> > One of our biggest problems is, technology, especially direct sampling,
> has enabled us to build outstanding radios into tiny little boxes, AND, it
> is difficult to convince any OEM that they should still put that radio into
> a large box with large display. How about a large front-facing loud
> speaker?
> >
> > I'm tired of having to squint my eyes to read the labels on Buttons or
> the S-Meter on my Eagle.
> > Give me a large box with a huge heat-sink on the back and a large boxer
> fan running at half speed or less to cool it. It will be inaudible.
> >
> > Anyway, perhaps this is part of the dissatisfaction of the 7300.
> > Perhaps those trading it back in previously had much larger boxes and
> were simply uncomfortable with the small size of the 7300.
> >
> > 73 - Rick, DJ0IP
> > (Nr. Frankfurt, Germany)
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: TenTec [mailto:tentec-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Gary J
> FollettDukes HiFi
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2016 4:50 AM
> > To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment
> > Subject: Re: [TenTec] OT: 7300 buy back program
> >
> > Paragon ? Maybe… Trade it for an Omni 6+ or an Orion…
> >
> > Eagle is a great choice but box is too small for my tastes.
> >
> > Gary
> >
> >
> >
> >> On Aug 16, 2016, at 9:32 PM, Bwana Bob <wb2vuf@verizon.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> Well, isn't there a mid-grade radio between "entry level" and "contest
> grade"? I consider entry level to be the Alinco or the ICOM IC-718, both
> under $1000. For $1500, I wouldn't expect a super contest radio, but I
> would expect something better than entry level. (Ah, when I was a boy,
> entry level was a used Hammarlund receiver and a Heathkit DX-60A).
> >>
> >> -Bob WB2VUF
> >>
> >>
> >> On 8/15/2016 2:28 PM, rick@dj0ip.de wrote:
> >>> In plain English Paul, it overloads MUCH too easily.
> >>>
> >>> To prevent that, you have to use a lot of attenuation; here in Europe
> >>> even more than the radio has built in.
> >>> Then it does not overload but you can no longer hear the really weak
> >>> stations.
> >>>
> >>> In most day to day operation, this is not a problem.
> >>> In contests it is. In its present state, it is not a serious contest
> radio.
> >>>
> >>> Icom has replied to this point in writing that it is an entry level
> >>> radio, not a high end radio.
> >>>
> >>> On the bright side, contrary to many of the other Japanese radios
> >>> shipping today (i.e. 7600 and ALL Yasues), it has a clean transmitter.
> >>>
> >>> Icom could fix this radio and potentially make it a great entry level
> >>> radio but they will probably leave it like that so that users wanting
> >>> more must pay more for the next higher radio. "That" was indeed my
> >>> opinion; the bit on performance is fact.
> >>>
> >>> 73 - Rick, DJ0IP
> >>> (Nr. Frankfurt, Germany)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: TenTec [mailto:tentec-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of
> >>> kd3jf.paulgates@gmail.com
> >>> Sent: Monday, August 15, 2016 7:47 PM
> >>> To: k9yc@arrl.net; Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment
> >>> Subject: Re: [TenTec] OT: 7300 buy back program
> >>>
> >>> Exactly in plain English what is wrong with the 7300 Paul kw4bd Sent
> >>> from my iPhone
> >>>
> >>>> On Aug 15, 2016, at 12:11 PM, Jim Brown <k9yc@audiosystemsgroup.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>> Barry,
> >>>>
> >>>> I don't disagree that all mfrs are looking at direct sampling RX,
> >>>> and I
> >>> agree that they should be. I'd call that wise investment in R&D. My
> >>> assessment of the 7300 is that it's a budget level product that was
> >>> oversold.
> >>>> The fundamental issue right now with that technology is dynamic
> >>>> range with
> >>> the available chips, which are in the right price range because of
> >>> the volume built for them by cell phones. Guys are making Flex 6700s
> >>> work in contest superstations because the serious bandpass filtering
> >>> they would need with any radio acts as an RX preselector, limiting
> >>> the bandwidth of the spectrum that can overload the A/D. But that
> >>> won't help in EU or AS, where broadcasters are in the passband of any
> >>> practical filter on 40M, and there are some high power broadcasters
> >>> close enough to 20M to make it a problem there too.
> >>>> I think you've been happy with your ANAN in that regard. Are you
> >>>> doing
> >>> anything special to address the dynamic range issue?
> >>>> 73, Jim K9YC
> >>>>
> >>>>> On Mon,8/15/2016 5:22 AM, Barry N1EU wrote:
> >>>>> I think dealers and manufacturers have stock piles of ALL
> >>>>> superhets, not just the 7600. I think Rick is on the mark that the
> >>>>> DEALER is simply motivated to move excess 7600 inventory.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> What Rick didn't mention is that there's a fresh rumor making the
> >>>>> rounds that Icom is about to announce a direct sampling SDR
> >>>>> replacement for the 7600. That's extra motivation to move 7600
> >>> inventory.
> >>>>> The 7300 has changed the game, period. Icom is sitting pretty.
> >>>>
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