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From: Richards <jrichards@k8jhr.com>
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Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2014 14:05:41 -0400
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On 9/14/2014 11:47 AM, Don Jones wrote:

But I would like to try the OCF method mentioned by Rick DJ0IP.
Sounds like for a 44 ft OCF antenna the feed point would be 19ft/25ft. Correct? Hoping I can get 10M to play better and would like better efficiency as compared to a 34 doublet on 30M.

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I have been tracking and following Rick's development of his OCF dipole for a LONG time, and he has tested that puppy sixteen ways to Sunday and back, in addition to using it on the air in various contests. I, too, am interested in OCF dipole designs because I wanted to get a 40 m OCF dipole to also play on 15 m, which is usually not possible. I cut mine at different non-typical feed point 25% to 75% and got 15 meters to play on a 40 meter OCF Dipole - but at some expense to the 6 meter band, which usually would be better (mine has about 5 : 1 SWR on 6 meters, and it would usually be lower, if I did not adjust it to make 15 play better at about 3.5 SWR) - I think Rick and I are both interested in the same thing - i.e., to experiment with various feed points and determine how many bands one can work on one wire.

Another reason Rick's work is interesting, is because these things are, as Jim Brown strongly observes, more subject to problems from Common Mode Current than other designs, which can add unwanted electrical noise and it can also adversely affect impedance mismatch, as Rick as demonstrated in in dozens of tests. The goal is, of course, to get as many workable bands, with the lowest mix of SWR and mismatch, as possible. MY goal was simply to get 15 m to play on a 40 m OCF dipole - which it usually does not. I understand Rick's goal was more ambitious, to make the most of a single wire antenna.

What did I learn from his work, and my own research... ?

1)  they ARE subject to CMC if you are not careful;

2)  not all baluns are created equal,

3) it is often better to wind the transformer bit separate from the choke bit, and both are important in their own right,

4) OCF Dipoles generally work on all "even" harmonic bands, but with some tweaking of the feed point location, they CAN be made to work on both "even" and at least some "odd" harmonic bands,

5) Whilst they work best on the lower bands - closest to the one for which they are cut - you see simpler, fuller lobes on those lower bands, and get more, and less uniform, lobes, on higher bands, and the more the thing exceeds a wavelength of the frequency of interest, the more this occurs,

6) similar differences in take off angle seem to occur as you move to higher frequency bands,

7) hanging your OCF horizontally is better than as an inverted-V as this helps avoid or minimize the CMC,m

8) take your feed line away from the elements in a perpendicular direction. Rick's tests indicate leaning the feed line toward one side or the other alters the CMC/SWR result with measurable impact, and

9) the length and type of transmission line may have a substantial impact. You can see this if you play with the ARRL TLW (Transmission Line for Windows) program to analyze the impact of different lengths of transmission line. Rick can tell you a LOT more about this than I, but as he mentioned, above, a quarter wave length may have a substantially different result compared to a half wave length, and various points in between.

A web site is dedicated to OCF dipoles, and there is data on many other feed point splits - which is where I got the idea to move mine. He has a chart of data on several different OCF feed point splits, which is very instructive.

 See here:

http://hamwaves.com/cl-ocfd/en/index.html

I seem to recall W8JI has a nice piece on splitting one 80/20%.

Just MY take...
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