Very hard to beat these two configurations when one has limited space and
cannot install antennas for every band.
73
Bob K4TAX
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> On May 23, 2014, at 4:06 PM, Carl Moreschi <n4py3@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> I also agree if I could only have one antenna it would be a 130 foot dipole
> set up as an inverted V and fed with open wire line to an in shack tuner.
> And my second choice is an end fed 130 wire in an inverted L with an outdoor
> automatic tuner and coax from the tuner to the shack.
>
> Carl Moreschi N4PY
> 58 Hogwood Rd
> Louisburg, NC 27549
> www.n4py.com
>
>> On 5/23/2014 4:57 PM, Rick - DJ0IP / NJ0IP wrote:
>> Jim, I can't agree. Sorry.
>> You are not on the same page as I am.
>> You push a resonant antenna, but that's a monoband antenna.
>> You sell the "all band dipole" much too short.
>>
>> YES you are correct about its many nulls on the high bands. They are
>> definitely not as bad as you make it out to be.
>> I've seen your current and past QTH (in Chicago).
>> You are a lucky man. Compliments for making best use of the space available
>> for an antenna farm - especially in Chicago!
>>
>> Many people, possibly most, can have just one single antenna at their QTH.
>> They will never have what you have or have had in the past.
>> Many use the non-resonant or openwire fed dipole - the one you say is not a
>> good antenna.
>>
>> You do it a big injustice to say it is a bad antenna.
>> Many experts, including W1ICP (Lew McCoy) and W4RNL (L.B. Cebik) have said
>> "if I could only have just one antenna, it would be the openwire fed
>> dipole."
>>
>> My own experience: go to CQWW DX Contest, "All Time Records" (CW).
>> Do a search on "DJ0IP".
>> I'm on the list as an all time record holder (high power assisted) in one
>> European country, set using this antenna that you claim does not work. My
>> record has stood for over 20 years. You don't set records with antennas
>> which do not work.
>>
>> So yes, there are lots of better mono-band antennas, but I don't know of any
>> multiband antenna that works better.
>> If you do, PLEASE share it with us. I will gladly be proven wrong in this
>> case! (hi)
>>
>> 73 - Rick, DJ0IP
>> (Nr. Frankfurt am Main)
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: TenTec [mailto:tentec-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Jim Brown
>> Sent: Friday, May 23, 2014 6:45 PM
>> To: 'Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment'
>> Subject: Re: [TenTec] The Next Flagship
>>
>>> On 5/23/2014 3:06 AM, Rick - DJ0IP / NJ0IP wrote:
>>> I agree with all of that, but you leave one point out. "Openwire."
>>> As you well know, the impedance of an openwire dipole varies from band
>>> to band and can be all over the map, up to a couple thousand Ohms.
>>
>> Rick,
>>
>> I didn't leave it out at all -- it's one of the non-resonant antennas I
>> talked about. This is a lousy antenna, a bad idea. Yes, the Handbook says it
>> "works" on all bands. So does a light bulb. That "all band"
>> dipole has a pattern that varies widely from band to band, with deep nulls
>> in some directions where there are stations you would like to work.
>>
>> The place for antenna match boxes is to make a dipole cut for 80CW work on
>> the phone band, to load a random long wire that ends in the shack, to
>> correct for a dipole that isn't quite the right length.
>>
>> I'm a big fan of fan dipoles, which are easy to build, which work really
>> well, and which have very predictable patterns. If you have room for a 20M
>> dipole, you can hang a 20/15/10 fan. Barry at Hypower Antenna Company sells
>> very nice loaded dipoles that also cover 30 and 40 and can fit 80M into
>> about 100 ft. That was my low band antenna in Chicago. He makes a version
>> for 160 and 80 with a fan element for 40 that also works very well on 30M.
>>
>> 73, Jim K9YC
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