In my personal opinion (only) I think any form of CW is as valid as any
other form.
I don't think we need be so "pure" about it.
The person who actually can copy CW will always outperform the machine
decoders anyway, because they break down under conditions that a human can
still operate under. That is sufficient "advantage" as far as I am
concerned.
I do agree that lots of people copy CW by machine now. Would you rather
have CW activity decrease quite a lot....or would you rather have it
increase a lot by having machines help out.
I know what the purists say....but (again in my opinion) they marginalize
themselves by the sheer vitriol of their commentary.
73 de Gary, AA2IZ
----- Original Message -----
From: "Phil Chambley Sr." <k4dpk@comcast.net>
To: "Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment" <tentec@contesting.com>
Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 2:43 PM
Subject: Re: [TenTec] wither CW?
>I think the advent of the sound-card interface is probably responsible for
> much of the perceived increase in CW participation, but it does raise- at
> least in my mind- a question of legitimacy in contests.
>
>
>
> It's a little bothersome to me to hear some self-proclaimed big Dxers talk
> about all the stations they work on CW, when I know some can't copy enough
> to pass the old Novice test.
>
>
>
> It seems to me the op who copies for real should have a point advantage
> vs.
> the op who is using "artificial cw". I don't work contests, only picking
> up
> the occasional contact of particular DX interest, but I wonder if anyone
> else shares this point of view.
>
>
>
> Phil C. Sr.
>
> k4dpk
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Richards" <jruing@ameritech.net>
> To: "Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment" <tentec@contesting.com>
> Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 2:03 PM
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] wither CW?
>
>
>> Interesting, and apparently very good news for CWs.
>>
>> Not to rain on your parade, but I am not sure the data supports the
>> stated conclusion ... While it suggests there are more CW operators out
>> there, it is far from conclusive. This data only proves participation
>> in CW contests has increased, as measured by the number of logs
>> submitted, and by the increasing number of contacts.
>>
>> Thus, the total number of CW operators could have diminished, with more
>> of those remaining participating each year in the contest. Moreover, a
>> greater number of contacts each year could be attributed to other
>> factors, such as the use of CW skimmer and other software applications,
>> and other tools, such as memory keyers and techniques decreasing the
>> time it takes to complete a contact.
>>
>> But ... it IS a good indication. I am one of three guys from our
>> Friday lunch bunch (or maybe 20-23 guys total) who are learning code
>> right now. Hopefully we exemplify the newer ham licensee who wants to
>> learn code for the fun of it, not because we have to.
>>
>> Maybe the number of CW operators HAS been increasing, on the theory that
>> kids don't take to the piano if you force them to take piano lessons,
>> but will take up the instrument for life if they start voluntarily.
>>
>> Parenthetically, I suspect the reason more operators do CW then SSB in
>> dual type contests, is because a CW contact generally counts for more
>> points than and SSB contacts. It is that way, for example, in the
>> Michigan QSO Party, which counts two points for a CW contacts, and one
>> point for an SSB contact. I don't want to participate in the contest as
>> a rookie or first-year contestant, until I know the code, because
>> unless one does CW, he has no chance of winning.
>>
>> ========================== K8JHR ================================
>>
>>
>>
>> On 5/24/2010 1:47 AM, Jim Brown K9YC wrote:
>>> Anyone who thinks CW is dying ought to turn on their radio during
>>> a contest. Some easily available statistics:
>>>
>>> Contest Logs QSOs by Leader
>>> ARRL SS CW 09 1553 1597
>>> ARRL SS CW 08 1420 1529
>>> ARRL 160M 09 1366 2046
>>> ARRL 160M 08 1280 1753
>>> ARRL DX CW 09 3131 5928
>>> ARRL DX CW 08 2686 4797
>>>
>>> Note that these numbers all show increased participation year to
>>> year. In ARRL SS and ARRL 160M, you can work a station only once,
>>> so that means at least 1597 stations were on the air in SS09, and
>>> 2046 in ARRL 160 09 (and thats a single band contest that many
>>> hams cant work at all)! In ARRL DX, you can work each station on
>>> multiple bands.
>>
>>> In most contests that run both CW and SSB simultaneously, theres
>>> more activity on CW than SSB.
>>>
>>>
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