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Re: [TenTec] Orion Aux I/O Audio Problem

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Subject: Re: [TenTec] Orion Aux I/O Audio Problem
From: "Tommy" <aldermant@alltel.net>
Reply-to: tentec@contesting.com
Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2004 18:57:01 -0400
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OK Duane...I understand. Yes, I use the AUX I/O pin 4 left audio output to
drive my sound  card to display part of the audio spectrum because I'm using
TuneWin to zero beat other stations in CW operation. (takes me forever to
match tones by ear, but can zero beat another signal very quick using
TuneWin.) I just emailed Mark that if I have time tonight I will load v1.371
and see if I can duplicate what you and he are observing. Will let you know.

By the way, if the audio out of pin 4 were to vary under any conditions, I
would know it immediately because TuneWin is on my PC screen at all times.

Tom - W4BQF

----- Original Message -----
From: "Duane A Calvin" <ac5aa@juno.com>
To: <tentec@contesting.com>
Sent: Friday, July 23, 2004 4:15 PM
Subject: Re: [TenTec] Orion Aux I/O Audio Problem


> Tommy,
>         I'll validate the exact settings this weekend.  I don't remember
> how I had the audio routed to headset since I was not using the them for
> RTTY, but speaker was set to Both.  I'm running FW 1.371.  We're speaking
> of the volume out of the pin 4 Accessory jack connection, "Left Aux Out".
>  The speaker volume didn't change, just the pin 4 output level.
>
>         73,  Duane
>
>
> On Fri, 23 Jul 2004 15:28:30 -0400 "Tommy" <aldermant@alltel.net> writes:
> > Hmmm....I just went back and checked what Duane reported. Set the
> > Audio Menu
> > for Left & Right to BOTH, then vary the audio levels of the main and
> > then
> > the sub rcvr. At first I thought the SubRx had much louder audio for
> > the
> > same setting, but discovered the BW of the main rx was 500Hz and the
> > BW of
> > the SubRX was 1000 Hz. If I set both rcvrs to the same BW, then I
> > can find
> > no interaction at all when using the independant audio controls. I
> > slightly
> > offset the same CW signal so I could monitor the difference in level
> > of each
> > rcvr, and they both sound totally independant to my ears.
> >
> > Again, I'm running v1.369.
> >
> > As Bill mentioned, the roofing filter issue is something we are
> > looking at
> > in the beta firmware.
> >
> > Tom - W4BQF
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Mark Erbaugh" <mark@microenh.com>
> > To: <tentec@contesting.com>
> > Sent: Friday, July 23, 2004 2:56 PM
> > Subject: Re: [TenTec] Orion Aux I/O Audio Problem
> >
> >
> > > Duane,
> > >
> > > I have also experienced an unexpected linkage between audio levels
> > when
> > both
> > > headphone sides are set to BOTH and when muting one of the
> > receivers.
> > >
> > > I suspect that these issues may be related to the way the audio
> > is
> > generated
> > > and routed in the Orion. The controls give a simplified
> > appearance, but
> > > behind the scenes you've got two possible audio sources (main /
> > sub
> > receiver
> > > D/A converters), 6 possible audio destinations ( speaker,
> > headphone left,
> > > headphone right, aux I/O left, aux I/O right and line out ) two AF
> > gain
> > > controls (which are really just inputs to the processor ) and a
> > menu
> > system
> > > for routing it all. There also have to be at least two audio
> > amplifiers
> > > (left and right headphone).
> > >
> > > It might be helpful if someone could describe the details that
> > make all
> > > these work together. With that explanation, we might be able to
> > explain
> > some
> > > of the situations where things don't work as expected.
> > >
> > > 73,
> > > Mark
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Duane A Calvin" <ac5aa@juno.com>
> > > To: <tentec@contesting.com>
> > > Sent: Friday, July 23, 2004 1:19 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [TenTec] Orion Aux I/O Audio Problem
> > >
> > >
> > > > Mark,
> > > >         There is a similar issue that I've seen.  Turn up the
> > volume on
> > > > the SubRx and watch the Main RX volume output go down!  I caught
> > this
> > > > during the NAQP RTTY as I was trying to check other bands on the
> > SubRX
> > > > and noticed as soon as I unmuted the SubRX, the output from the
> > Left on
> > > > the rear panel decreased.   Then I discovered it followed the
> > SubRX
> > > > volume inversely - higher the SubRX, lower the main RX.
> > Strange.  I
> > have
> > > > not seen exactly what you mention, but will check it this
> > weekend.
> > > >
> > > >         73,  Duane
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, 23 Jul 2004 11:49:43 -0400 "Mark Erbaugh"
> > <mark@microenh.com>
> > > > writes:
> > > > > I wonder if other Orion owners have encountered this problem?
> > > > >
> > > > > I have my computer soundcard input connected to Pin 4 of the
> > Aux I/O
> > > > > jack on
> > > > > the back of the Orion. According to the documentation, this
> > pin is
> > > > > Left Side
> > > > > Audio Output. I have Left, Right and Speaker configured to the
> > main
> > > > > receiver.  With stereo headphones plugged in to the front
> > panel
> > > > > headphone
> > > > > jack, I hear the audio in both ears as expected and the
> > computer
> > > > > appears to
> > > > > be receiving fixed level audio. The audio level does not
> > change as
> > > > > the main
> > > > > AF gain control is adjusts.
> > > > >
> > > > > Except - if I turn the main AF gain all the way down or mute
> > the
> > > > > audio by
> > > > > pushing the AF gain encoder, the audio going to the computer
> > goes
> > > > > away.  If
> > > > > I unplug the headphones and mute the audio to the speaker,
> > the
> > > > > computer
> > > > > still gets audio.
> > > > >
> > > > > This is with firmware 1.371.
> > > > >
> > > > > 73,
> > > > > Mark
> > > > >
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> > > > Duane Calvin, AC5AA
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