To: | tentec@contesting.com |
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Subject: | [TenTec] One complicated radio! |
From: | Bill Tippett <btippett@alum.mit.edu> |
Reply-to: | tentec@contesting.com |
Date: | Mon, 24 Nov 2003 15:40:18 -0500 |
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KC9CDT wrote: >Are these issues (the interaction of RF gain, AGC threshold and decay, and BW) design issues, meaning does the ORION design / implementation have some problems? OR... are these issues necessary to get a better performing RX function. Great questions Lee! The simple answer is probably YES to BOTH. To me, one of the most striking differences about Orion has to do with the action of its Digital AGC (not the Analog AGC which only operates to prevent over-driving the ADC with S9+30 signals). I certainly don't fully understand it even though I have read KF6DX's article carefully several times: http://www.doug-smith.net/digitalagc.htm Although the IC-756PRO2 is also a DSP radio, and probably also has a version of digital AGC, its AGC action apparently doesn't have the same unique characteristics as Orion. I've never used one, but I don't believe it has the same degree of AGC adjustment (i.e. Threshold and Hang...Decay is probably included in the Fast/Medium/Slow setting). I also don't know if the PRO2's AGC works as well as Orion's does. Orion was truly amazing in the CQ WW SSB. I was able to run DX stations from the noise floor up to S9++ while seldom needing to adjust AF or RF Gain. With my previous MP, I would continually need to adjust both controls. Orion's AGC may be one of the BEST features of the radio, but it may also be one of the WORST under certain conditions. I believe these conditions are for very specific noise (impulse, but not galactic or "white" noise) when it becomes very critical to adjust the AGC for signals right AT the noise floor. This is why it takes some learning to use it on the low bands which have impulse-type noise (lightning QRN). So yes, you probably get the best truly "Automatic Gain Control" I've ever seen in any radio, but for certain specific noise conditions, Orion may require more work than we are accustomed to make it work well. The good news is that the Digital AGC is completely contained within the DSP, so as TT develops improvements, AGC improvements should be available in future firmware updates. I'm personally willing to live with the AGC issues awhile because: 1. Orion's front-end performance is far better than any other radio, which is very important to me for contests and low-band DX-ing. 2. I have confidence Ten-Tec will continue to refine Orion based on our inputs, including the AGC action and ease-of-use, in future updates. 73, Bill W4ZV P.S. Regarding your second post about Orion's noise level, just learn to adjust Threshold upwards until the noise floor drops to a reasonable level. This level is different on every band depending on conditions, time of day, etc. Think of it as adjusting RF Gain in a traditional radio. _______________________________________________ TenTec mailing list TenTec@contesting.com http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/tentec |
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