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Subject: [SECC] Phonetics
From: k4ab@msn.com (Larry Crim)
Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 17:59:53 -0600
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I keep getting responses as K "ONE" AB.

I can't figure that out for the life of me.

73,
Larry K4AB =20
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----- Original Message -----
From: Greg Richard
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 21:06
To: SECC@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [SECC] Phonetics
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I didn't operate much in the ARRL SSB contest but I heard a CT1 station o=
n
Sunday morning.  He had lots of guys calling but every 2nd one was a dupe=
.
He was talking fairly fast and when he called CQ, it sounded like he said
Charlie Tango One Alpha Fox United.  A stateside guy would call and when =
the
CT1 gave the exchange, he'd say "dupe"  I guess it took a couple of secon=
ds
to get the call in the computer.  Then the stateside guys would ask for h=
is
call and he gave it phonetically again but a bit slower and it was CT1APU=
.
I listened for about 5 minutes and he must have had 8 dupes call in durin=
g
this time.  I wanted to jump in and suggest he change phonetics but I
didn't.

The moral of the story is IF you have alot of guys calling you that are
dupes, CHANGE THE PHONETICS YOU ARE USING especially if there is a
consistency to the letter(s) they continue to bust.  I know that when I
start talking real fast on SSB, alot of guys get the 4 in my callsign as =
a
2.  It happened when I was KC4ZV and it still happens now as K4NO.

Just one of the things you can control to help reduce dupes in a contest.

Anybody got other thoughts?

Greg K4NO
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dick Bentley" <k2uft@yahoo.com>
To: <SECC@contesting.com>
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 1:12 PM
Subject: [SECC] Phonetics


> Court K4WI reported problems with his call being
> misinterpreted in the SSB test.  While tuning around
> on 20 meters I ran into a CT1 whose phonetics I
> absolutely did not understand.  I know my ears roll
> off around 1,000 cycles as a result of 44 years of CW,
> but this guy seemed to be saying Charlie Tango One
> Alpha WATEL Uniform.  I assume the Watel was Hotel and
> it was CT1AHU.  No one calling him seemed to have any
> problem understanding his call, at least no one asked
> for fills or repeats. Anyone notice this?
>
> Dick  K2UFT
>
>
>
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didn't operate much in the ARRL SSB contest but I heard a CT1 station on<=
BR>Sunday morning.&nbsp; He had lots of guys calling but every 2nd one wa=
s a dupe.<BR>He was talking fairly fast and when he called CQ, it sounded=
 like he said<BR>Charlie Tango One Alpha Fox United.&nbsp; A stateside gu=
y would call and when the<BR>CT1 gave the exchange, he'd say "dupe"&nbsp;=
 I guess it took a couple of seconds<BR>to get the call in the computer.&=
nbsp; Then the stateside guys would ask for his<BR>call and he gave it ph=
onetically again but a bit slower and it was CT1APU.<BR>I listened for ab=
out 5 minutes and he must have had 8 dupes call in during<BR>this time.&n=
bsp; I wanted to jump in and suggest he change phonetics but I<BR>didn't.=
<BR><BR>The moral of the story is IF you have alot of guys calling you th=
at are<BR>dupes, CHANGE THE PHONETICS YOU ARE USING especially if there i=
s a<BR>consistency to the letter(s) they continue to bust.&nbsp; I know t=
hat when I<BR>start talking real fast on SSB, alot of guys get the 4 in m=
y callsign as a<BR>2.&nbsp; It happened when I was KC4ZV and it still hap=
pens now as K4NO.<BR><BR>Just one of the things you can control to help r=
educe dupes in a contest.<BR><BR>Anybody got other thoughts?<BR><BR>Greg =
K4NO<BR>----- Original Message -----<BR>From: "Dick Bentley" &lt;k2uft@ya=
hoo.com&gt;<BR>To: &lt;SECC@contesting.com&gt;<BR>Sent: Thursday, March 0=
7, 2002 1:12 PM<BR>Subject: [SECC] Phonetics<BR><BR><BR>&gt; Court K4WI r=
eported problems with his call being<BR>&gt; misinterpreted in the SSB te=
st.&nbsp; While tuning around<BR>&gt; on 20 meters I ran into a CT1 whose=
 phonetics I<BR>&gt; absolutely did not understand.&nbsp; I know my ears =
roll<BR>&gt; off around 1,000 cycles as a result of 44 years of CW,<BR>&g=
t; but this guy seemed to be saying Charlie Tango One<BR>&gt; Alpha WATEL=
 Uniform.&nbsp; I assume the Watel was Hotel and<BR>&gt; it was CT1AHU.&n=
bsp; No one calling him seemed to have any<BR>&gt; problem understanding =
his call, at least no one asked<BR>&gt; for fills or repeats. Anyone noti=
ce this?<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; Dick&nbsp; K2UFT<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;=
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