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Re: [RTTY] Pactor QRM To The Other Digital Modes

To: "rtty@contesting.com" <rtty@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [RTTY] Pactor QRM To The Other Digital Modes
From: Michael Adams <mda@n1en.org>
Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2016 16:20:43 +0000
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Well, I just did something I haven't done in a long time.

I opened a Winlink client and updated the Pactor frequency lists.

For whatever it's worth, I see:

VE7RBH, a P4 node, at 14081.5
IQ9IL, a P4 node, at 14082.5

They're legal today (assuming a K-land station wasn't using P4), as the 
automated subband restriction is an FCC-ism, and there's nothing in Part 97 to 
prohibit US amateurs from calling the DX nodes.

I might tweak my comments to the FCC.  (I suppose that's why the professionals 
take their time in submitting comments!)  My mid-term scenario might need 
revision.  

If US-access to P4 leads to increased utilization of the DX nodes... it's 
probably not enough to convince the FCC to not drop the symbol rate limit, but 
it might make for a stronger argument for a bandwidth limit below the ACDS 
frequencies due to interference.

-- 
Michael Adams | mda@n1en.org

-----Original Message-----
From: RTTY [mailto:rtty-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Thomas F. Giella 
W4HM
Sent: Thursday, 18 August, 2016 11:08
To: rtty@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [RTTY] Pactor QRM To The Other Digital Modes

Yesterday evening I was on 20 meters working a DX station on RTTY. The 
frequency was 14082.000 kHz and a PACTOR station came on frequency and wiped 
out the QSO.

Mark N8HOU you can try to gloss over the not listening before transmitting 
PACTOR QRM issue but this will only happen more not less if RM-11708 becomes a 
reality.

I've been operating the digital modes since 2003 and RTTY contesting since
2006 and I've had 100's of QSO's destroyed by PACTOR stations that didn't 
listen before transmitting on top of my QSO. Listening before transmitting is 
one of the most basic tenets of operating going back to the beginning of 
hamateur radio.

So I have no doubt that RM-11708 will destroy virtually all digital mode QSO's 
if allowed to pass. PACTOR operators are some of the most rude and most selfish 
of all hamateur operators.


73 & GUD DX,
Thomas F. Giella W4HM
Lakeland, FL, USA
thomasfgiella@gmail.com 

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