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1. Re: RTTY Digest, Vol 158, Issue 49 (Konstantin Vakhonin)
2. Re: RTTY Contest Operating (iw1ayd - Salvatore Irato)
3. Re: RTTY Contest Operating (Ron W7FIA)
4. Re: RTTY Contest Operating (GL-DJ3IW-Web)
5. Re: RTTY Contest Operating (Shelby Summerville)
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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2016 07:24:03 +0300
From: Konstantin Vakhonin <vakhonin@mail.ru>
To: rtty@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [RTTY] RTTY Digest, Vol 158, Issue 49
Message-ID: <1455855843.925474068@f409.i.mail.ru>
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As part of RN4SW MS LP team I have worked with VK3JA in WPX-RTTY on 20m.
73, Konstantin
RU4SS
>Message: 4
>Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2016 18:34:28 -0600
>From: "Don Hill AA5AU" < aa5au@bellsouth.net >
>To: "'RTTY Reflector'" < rtty@contesting.com >
>Subject: Re: [RTTY] RTTY Contest Operating
>Message-ID: <003c01d16aad$4b837d50$e28a77f0$@net>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
>It's basically timing for me. Both messages take about the same time and
>with the S&P message you get the added assurance that the other station gets
>it right the first time and you don't have to send them repeat.
>
>Also, Steve, VK3JA (ex VK3TDX), once told me it's very difficult in RTTY
>contests with serial numbers to get correct copy from down under when it's
>sent only twice. That's when I started sending it 3 times in the S&P
>message.
>
>Haven't worked Steve since CQWW RTTY. Anyone heard from him?
>
>Don AA5AU
>
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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2016 09:12:51 +0100
From: iw1ayd - Salvatore Irato <iw1ayd@gmail.com>
To: Phil Sussman <psussman@pactor.com>, Hank Garretson <w6sx@arrl.net>
Cc: RTTY Reflector <rtty@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [RTTY] RTTY Contest Operating
Message-ID: <56C6CE83.8030607@googlemail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
Well ...
Hank please consider what I am writing here down.
Phil please don't go that much further. Even small pills, just 10 S&P
contest QSO, may have positive effects.
We all have meters in front of us when in shack or elsewhere. That's the
"RTTY Message Length Calculator".
Thanks to the work of David - KJ4IZW and the credited suggestions by
/Chen - W7AY, we have that metering tool on hands.
Out of, it the discussions around old and new ideas for whatever is
better, wrong or worst will continue forever, as fishermen tales.
That's the good way to be a community, indeed much more than a Social
community.
I see here whatever could be a bunch of ways as to be more proficient
and elegant, effective with pleasure and efficiency, for my hobby.
I see here peoples, that I would never meet face to face, that have
invaluable inheritable items. Both, wrong and right.
I see here peoples that give out metrics that will permit, by myself or
again with the help of an older or the next message, to apply that
metering technique to what I see on air.
That's the way to try cleverly to rediscover what elsewhere discovered
and to apply it DXing, Contesting or simply having QSO.
This is plainly recognizable by several aspect. One of these, just to
say is well seen when 5 over 10 RTTY operators when in Contest or not
will call me back sounding like this:
IW1AYD IW1AYD DE FA1KE FA1KE FA1KE
Well, W-lands and JA-lands, make the number, 5/10, dropping to a mere
1/10. But EUs, any side, have even more numbers.
Now I have not to explain that this is a deprecated answer pattern, much
more useful to force the QRG hogging than any other.
But still when Contesting or simply CQing I get those answers. Even if
we are discussing about duplicated shift-letters control characters or
USOS ... I still get "just in case you don't know yours call" silly
answerback ... ;-)
So, don't shoot the meter nor who is making different things, perhaps
coming from other sides. At least here or on air.
I will be of any help for any one, asking QRZ? QRZ? twice before to fire
my ...
PSE DR OM UR QSA IS TOO WEAK HERE TRY AGN LATER ON TU IW1AYD
Yes, when in contest, when having a fast as I could operating time, I am
still "festina lente". That mean, this time, to be fast with awareness
of anyone or anything around. Being fast but not to drive into anyone
and several others.
That OM that is frantically calling me in but is unacknowledged as I
could not decode that weak signal deserve all my attention.
Much more of who is calling onto the exchange of anyone other and will
not come back when I TU NOW HISCALL.
I hate those peoples that will not come back ... but that also could be
my next multiplier, or as in Volta my Continental Multiplier.
Just the same as the one I fired that long macro, all together.
All together with that JA, great one, that gifted me a 001 on the last
out of a Contest. All together.
I have had the pleasure to setup N1MM+ with MMTTY and 2Tone for 3
evenings to a remote, for me, OM here in Italy. He made 200 QSO in the
WPX. My contest wasn't only what I had done at the Club Station nearby.
It was also what I have done at the home of this OM, with his 200 S&P
QSO and the debriefing we had just after him setup to send in the log.
All together, we like to write about fishes and how to catch the lunch
as fishermen.
Diddling with pleasure and exuberantly all together.
73 de iw1ayd Salvo
/PS hope that my poor English will sound much better than my RTTY :-)
On 18/02/2016 23:46, Phil Sussman wrote:
> Oh, Hank,
>
> Just think, one more bit and your life is over. Golly, what if you
> had to check what you send to make sure it is the absolute minimum
> required, or you will no longer be able to participate in the contest.
>
> Hey, wait, how about if you send an extra bit, you must apply a penalty
> to every QSO that you work. Perhaps 5 points off for every wasted bit
> that you send.
>
> Now you can see why I shy away from contests -- to the WARC bands.
>
> 73 de Phil - N8PS
>
>
>
>
> Quoting Hank Garretson <w6sx@arrl.net>:
>
>> http://dwestbrook.net/projects/ham/rtty-length/?msg=&stop_bits=1&usos=1&mode=RTTY
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Very nice tool which has its uses, but I gently suggest it can
>> distract us
>> from what's important.
>>
>> The idea is not to necessarily shorten what you send. The idea is to 1.
>> Make what you send "easy copy" for the other guy, and 2. Tailor what you
>> send to to the circumstances of each QSO so you complete the contact in
>> shipshape fashion as quickly as possible.
>>
>> Diddle Exuberantly,
>>
>> Hank, W6SX
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 73 de iw1ayd Salvo
>>>
>>>
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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2016 00:36:59 -0800 (PST)
From: Ron W7FIA <fia@clouddancer.com>
To: ed@w0yk.com
Cc: rtty@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [RTTY] RTTY Contest Operating
Message-ID: <20160219083719.245513FA124@mail.clouddancer.com>
> From: "Ed Muns" <ed@w0yk.com>
> Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2016 09:57:15 -0800
>
> The CQ is truncated (usually with the ESC key) and then the response is sent
> on the other radio. And, a proper lockout (Last One Wins) provides a
> failsafe.
When I first read this I was puzzled, Last One?
So apparently the thinking is that the operator is aware that one
radio is xmitting and some reason has appeared that requires another
radio to xmit, therefore you stop (via lockout) the prior xmit to
begin a new one.
> Ed W0YK
> ____________________________________________________________________
>
> On 2/18/2016 8:49 AM, Ken K6MR wrote:
> > I'm still a newbie at SO2R, but this begs a question: Why would you ever
> wait for a cq to finish before responding to an actual Q on the other radio?
> I'm constantly cutting the CQs short to respond on the other radio, whether
> it's S&P or a dueling CQ condition.
it's a long way to the top
r
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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2016 10:24:43 -0000
From: "GL-DJ3IW-Web" <GL-DJ3IW@web.de>
To: <rtty@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [RTTY] RTTY Contest Operating
Message-ID: <000001d16aff$c08a7840$419f68c0$@web.de>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
This thread gets boring.
73 de Goetz DJ3IW
> -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: RTTY [mailto:rtty-bounces@contesting.com] Im Auftrag von Ron W7FIA
> Gesendet: Freitag, 19. Februar 2016 08:37
> An: ed@w0yk.com
> Cc: rtty@contesting.com
> Betreff: Re: [RTTY] RTTY Contest Operating
>
>
> > From: "Ed Muns" <ed@w0yk.com>
> > Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2016 09:57:15 -0800
> >
> > The CQ is truncated (usually with the ESC key) and then the response is
> sent
> > on the other radio. And, a proper lockout (Last One Wins) provides a
> > failsafe.
>
> When I first read this I was puzzled, Last One?
>
> So apparently the thinking is that the operator is aware that one
> radio is xmitting and some reason has appeared that requires another
> radio to xmit, therefore you stop (via lockout) the prior xmit to
> begin a new one.
>
>
> > Ed W0YK
> > ____________________________________________________________________
> >
> > On 2/18/2016 8:49 AM, Ken K6MR wrote:
> > > I'm still a newbie at SO2R, but this begs a question: Why would you
> ever
> > wait for a cq to finish before responding to an actual Q on the other
> radio?
> > I'm constantly cutting the CQs short to respond on the other radio,
> whether
> > it's S&P or a dueling CQ condition.
>
>
> it's a long way to the top
> r
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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2016 06:43:14 -0500
From: "Shelby Summerville" <k4ww@twc.com>
To: "GL-DJ3IW-Web" <GL-DJ3IW@web.de>, <rtty@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [RTTY] RTTY Contest Operating
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What he said!!!
C'Ya, Shelby - K4WW
Since I don't have an iPad or iPhone, sent from my PC
----- Original Message -----
From: "GL-DJ3IW-Web" <GL-DJ3IW@web.de>
To: <rtty@contesting.com>
Sent: Friday, February 19, 2016 5:24 AM
Subject: Re: [RTTY] RTTY Contest Operating
This thread gets boring.
73 de Goetz DJ3IW
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